I vote for @Andy87 to destroy all the escs
Totally agree, but they are not the only ones who who can have quality control issues. And since they are a very common option for lots of budget builders, any testing standard that does not test the FSESC would be missing a big chunk of the market share.
Yeah, i just canāt miss an opportunity to drop a
#fuckflipsky
You are right though.
Spread the good word wherever you can
The problem is, unless there are laws involved, the people selling shitty crap will just decline to do the tests. So any potential buyer would have to inquire about how good it is to know. Thatās hardly different than what we have now.
People ask about a VESC 4.12 clone thatās rated at 60A or whatnot, any of us can tell them that even at 30A continuous, itās going to throttle like a beast within less than a minute. But they donāt ask usuallyā¦
I really think this would only enable us to give more clear answers, but it wonāt change anything about what sellers claim imho. Unless they are selling top of the line equipment. And folks buying that are buying it because they are already in the knowā¦
Try tell that to mooch
It would still be fun to see someone blow up a bunch of flipsky escs
A reliable source for good information and a authority are two different things.
Implying someone who does the test is an authority suggest they are going to somehow regulate manufacturers on what they post.
This is a fair point but I would settle for a reliable source for good information
I would too, it was just the phrasing that got to me.
Maybe we can convince this guy to do some stress testing for us
Yeah, it was the wrong word, sorry, this is not my primary language. Not even my second lol.
What I meant is that if someone truly did that they would influence all halfway smart buyers and thus the manufacturers.
I understand dude.
You wonāt convince other manufacturers to change their specs, especially for China sellers.
The best you can do is have a third party community testing standard + results from the community.
Similar to 18650 cell testing, video card performance testing, etc.
Show more opened dialog details on whatās actually involved, etc.
I think itās a great idea.
We have testing lab can testing any for you. Is important first to know which character for testing to setting baseline for test. Can make test which can be replicate to other place.
My original concept was to establish a standardized procedure that could be followed by manufacturers and independent individuals/organisations alike.
ie In the automotive industry the manufacturers perform their own testing.
Then the cars are also tested by magazines in their own tracks and dynos.
There were manufacturers that used to publish inflated numbers but when magazines started doing their own testing these manufacturers were shamed and sooner or later corrected these numbers.
As already stated however, there is little chance that manufacturers in esk8 will agree to either the procedure or the testing, so best thing is for us to agree in these tests and find a way to make them a reality.
I agree, It probably should be. I think the fairest comparison would be just to test exactly what comes from the factory. The problem with this is that ESCs that have a heatsink built in will likely have a significant thermal advantage, which may end up not telling you about the quality of the electronics but more so about the parts ability to dissipate heat. But Iām not sure what to do about that.
For instance, a crappy esc with a really good heat sink >>> a better esc with no heatsink. Iām not sure about this, but if failure is thermally induced in these electronics I believe this could be true.
Iām 100% behind this, just a few things to point out:
As a few people have mentioned, ultimately the continuous rating of high power electronics is itās ability to shed heat. So equivalent quality ESCs will yield different results when one is simply attached to a bigger heatsink.
Continuous rating means nothing to life cycle of the product. It is possible to push high continuous ratings through subpar components if it means that the part will only last a month of use, so endurance and ultimate reliability needs to be tested too.
Continuous ratings will also need to be quite specific to environmental conditions. Ambient temperatures, enclosure or open air, even humidity can affect output numbers, so for accurate results, multiple units from different batches will need to be tested in controlled environments, using similar input sources and load equipment, and compared with other brands tested in identical environments for a fair comparison.
Someoneās gonna get to blow up a whoooooolllle lotta ESCs
Who wants to be the Mooch of ESCs?