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A lot of them can be pseudo-reliable if you run them at lower voltage and current, don’t have unreliable motor connections, et cetera.

If you type in huge numbers or don’t change the default “99A” settings, etc, you might set yourself up to be at a much higher risk for failure.

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That’s a hell of a good price on that Spintend dual. Any downvotes on that?

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This is advice I saw from you early on in my time building my own boards (2017-2018ish), and well I’m a pansy so I’ve yet to ever put a board together that I’ve reached the limits on even with “significant headroom” profiles configured on them. By far and away the best advice here, less you’re in the hobby to “push it” why bother riding the edge of function?

Even one of my first boards is still being used by the guy I gave it to. Running a very modest 10s1p and one of flipsky’s first V6 dual-motor designs. As long as the ESC doesnt let out the magic smoke on the first start (anecdotally speaking) if you’re giving it headroom you’ll be fine.

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How about those guys that use both “et cetera” and “etc” in the same post though?

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I’ve got two still, been riding one tonight and it didn’t let me down. One caught fire following a DRV fault, but the other two still go good. Per kilometer though, my flipsky’s are still probably paying better dividends.

I like the stormcore in that they keep an odometer reading. The flipsky’s reset to 0km each time they’re used.

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Ive seen a lot of 100 series ones having issues. Not many 60.

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The 100 series I have is the one that never made it out of the beta testing phase

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The good news is that PayPal has escalated my claim. If they don’t hear back by Aug 7 hopefully I’ll get a refund.

!mods! it would be fantastic to have a sticky good vendor bad vendor list of some sort so I don’t make another dumb mistake.

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Well, unfortunately the owner of this forum also runs Defiant board society, so…

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That’s me banned in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1…

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Oh how the mighty have fallen :smiling_face_with_tear:

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Refund received!!

Good on PayPal.

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There is no reliable vesec manufacturer you mean? The science behind vescs is solid.

I have only blown a vesc when I did stupid shit.
Yes you can be unlucky with QA but then you are probably buying from a second rate vendor.

The people paying Benjamin also make some good stuff. (I’m not saying their name here to avoid hate)

The reliability also depends on the users ability to configure it. Which is indeed not the case with china escs.

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This is, in my view, the main issue with VESC. Not all VESC hardware has inherent flaws. Some VESC hardware is very impressive. But all VESC systems suffer from the endless VESC firmware and software pitfalls.

There should be no world in which a mis-click in the app results in a burned ESC and a broken collarbone. And yet that’s all too common.

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VESC is a universal motor controller. That’s why it’s not “reliable” (pick whatever word you want) for esk8.

We need a fork (hardware and software) of vesc dedicated exclusively for esk8 (maybe exclusive to PEVs?). Until then we are just adapting this platform and it will lead to issues sometimes.

My most reliable PEVs are a onewheel that @TheBoardGarage built me that uses vesc. Onewheel vesc packages are really well developed and Mario knows his shit.

And my LaCroix 100D2, which was an over built ESC made specifically for ESK8 by Jeff Friesen who is a major contributor to the VESC codebase and changed a lot of it to make the stormcore. Coincidence? Idk lol. I just think this sport deserves better.

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Eh. I just like hating on vesc because i’m a bully like that

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Which ESC do you prefer?

One that somebody else has configured for me :grin:

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Ah I see.

Lingyi it is.