yep, not good
2 Likes
And it’s definitely a miniscule percentage of people using non imperial truck hardware lol
2 Likes
that’s because skateboarding was invented in the states and the states still haven’t updated to metric. it’s a legacy system from a legacy part of the world.
1 Like
Bro what no one here is switching to metric, it’s not legacy when it’s literally used everywhere, even in aircraft and cars and everything
Metric is easier to understand but that’s all
Tons of talk, (which is good), but nothing happening yet. I feel that any “standards” set here, should be
Esk8 DIY standards. Not respected prebuilt board company’s or existing traditional skate vendors. (If any of those company’s wanted to join, triple cheers to them)
That said, I would propose an axel standard for street boards. This would include 8mm, and 10-8 stepped.
Straight 8mm diameter… Length 50mm (10mm of thread length)
@Boardnamics has 50mm, and @3DServisas has 51mm
10mm stepped to 8mm… Overall length 54mm. 8mm diameter is 34mm in length with 10mm of thread length, thus, leaving 20mm length of 10mm diameter. These are the dimensions of 10-8 axels from Evolve, Ownboard, and many other prebuilt boards. Pulleys including bearings, or not, should fit these “possilble” standards for the DIY community.
Thoughts?
Naturally, these are dimensions for extended axels.
5 Likes
Maybe another standard that could be set is axel diameter dimensions with +/- dimensions.
This could only apply for premium components , but the benefits outweigh the cost.
1 Like
Measure your “8mm” axel, it is not 8mm. It is 5/16” (.312”) (7.92mm) at best. Probably smaller
4 Likes
The ideal diameter for an 8mm axel to fit a 8mm ID bearing is 8.00mm +0.00 - .01 mm
But, that makes it a little difficult to remove
1 Like
Doesn’t sound ideal to me. The early batches of the hypertrucks had a tight tolerance and I’ve seen quite a few compliants.
5 Likes
Ya, I agree, that is the ideal tolerance for a shaft and bearing that size. Not for skates that you remove the bearings often. I have some caliber trucks that measure 7.87mm. Way to much slop.
1 Like
I think we are too small of a market and too DIY handy for any manufacturer to really care.
Manufacturers thought process:
Connectors: They can just add their own bullets or hall connector adapter
Charge port: they can add/use whatever they already use
Gear drives: Why would anyone design a gear drive to be compatible with an existing gear drives’ gears? The amount of people that has older gears that will buy yours without gears is like <10. And amount of headache and design compromises to be compatible is literally not worth the 10 people it’ll benefit.
trucks and mounts: if people wanted BN220 for their mounts, they’ll buy BN220s on the cheap. Why would anyone pay my premium prices for something that looks the same? Mounts are cheap relative to the price of high end boards. If they can’t afford new mounts/are complainers because they cant reuse a $75 mount, then they are not my target demographic.
Battery enclosures: Can’t really see how there can be any standard for high end enclosures for all these different decks like eboosted. If you want the $40 abs vacuum formed rectangle ‘diy-e’ enclosure on amazon, you would have gotten that already.
Battery standards: We all know all of us high end users wont sacrifice any battery space for anything. There are already lots of custom battery builders on this forum that can build to any dimension you want.
Solving the above ‘problems’ will be a net negative to the manufacturer and/or the final product in terms of compromises and effort.
Unfortunately we are just too small and too niche for any realistic movement
6 Likes
well, all the more reason to try to attract more riders and builders!
They only need to standard the mounting points. The trucks can all look very different, no?..
I think we can thank boosted for this ^.
(skateboarding fact) The new school pattern was made to avoid nuts from being grinded off when
doing grinds and tricks.
As you can see in the photo if you was to noseslide and turn out on a old school pattern you would
end up grinding out your nuts. So long as this baseplate still considers grinding then Im in.
5 Likes
7 Likes
beyond that if the end of the deck is metal then multiple mount patterns is fine structurally.
Hanger wise you could make a part that converted from caliber style to 22x22/22.5
huh I wonder if evolve trucks could have a conversion part to fit AT drives.