Cheap FOCer 2 (Group Buy Batch 2)

Charclo · May 18, 2020, 6:57am

Hi, if it’s still possible, I would also like to order 1?

Greetings

pmg · May 18, 2020, 8:58am

Also +1 here, if I’m still on time.

Thanks

Anubis · May 18, 2020, 8:59am

If this is tested properly, I’ll take the remaining ones up to 50pcs and stock them in my store.

Edit: thats not actually that many, what’s the next step up? lmao

Edit 2: oh you ordered them okay nvm

tinp123 · May 18, 2020, 9:18am

I’d also take 2 if still possible!

doomy · May 18, 2020, 9:36am

I will reserve 2 of the extra focers if there is a problem. So i only go up to 48pcs for now.
Will also add a waiting list for an eventual second batch or if someone does not want theirs anymore.

LCSC order sent and paid

Halbj613 · May 18, 2020, 9:58am

nice for the people that you are soldering and helping how much would it be per piece aorund?

doomy · May 18, 2020, 10:29am

Many of you have already sent the payment and sometimes even a little bit extra. I think i will keep it at 30$ + shipping for this order. Lets see how it goes and if there will be a batch 2.

Stephensound · May 18, 2020, 3:58pm

If you have 2 I’ll take them ill give you a extra for soldering them
Thanks

Halbj613 · May 18, 2020, 4:00pm

@doomy if there are people who want and there are no spares you can give mine away as mine are for a future build a long time away
Maybe others could benefit from these right now

If there are spare at the end I will take

NuRxG · May 18, 2020, 4:05pm

I think you have more experience soldering/assembly than me from what ive seen, but charge people money for the soldering! Its a lot of work, took me like 2 hours per board. Beefing up all the mosfet traces takes a lot of time, and you cant use a solder paste template on a partially assembled board. even if you go 4x as fast as me (easily possible) that’s still going to be a full week of work to solder 80 of them.

Drilling and taping holes in the heatsinks takes a bunch of time too. I know i work very slow, but it was nearly 2 weeks of all my free time just to assemble 10 of them.

doomy · May 19, 2020, 6:25am

@Halbj613
Thanks, i will give yours to tinp123 he is on top of the waiting list and i think he will be very happy about that.

@NuRxG
Im most worried about bending all those MOSFET legs and soldering them. You are right its gonna be a lot of work. Maybe i build some jig to make it easier. Also sending out all those packages and printig adresses and customs declerations is already giving me headaches.

Talking of customs. I have read that everything from a non-EU country with value over ~27€ gets taxed. Is this true? Should i just declerate something like 20€ total or what is best? What about those of you who ordered more than 2 pieces?

Also now would be a good idea for you to order all the other parts like the heatsink and screws or whatever you need. Check the parts list:

github.com

shamansystems/Cheap-FOCer-2/blob/master/guides/assembly/partsList.md

# Parts

### AliExpress Wishlist

Wishlist for 5 FOCers: [AliExpress](https://my.aliexpress.com/wishlist/shared.htm?groupId=100000021433489)

### **SMD Assembled PCB**

* Follow **[this guide](../ordering/readme.md)**
* 1 per FOCer

### **Heat Sink**: [AliExpress](https://www.AliExpress.com/item/32951112852.html)

* 60mm x 100mm ( x 10mm) flat surface [Heat sink](images/heatSink.jpeg)
* 1 per FOCer
* Any [generic heat sink](images/heatSink.jpeg) with a flat surface of at least 60mm x 100mm can be used

### **Thermal Pad**: [AliExpress](https://www.AliExpress.com/item/32810504639.html)

* 60mm x 60mm x 1mm non conductive [Thermal pad](images/thermalPad.jpeg)

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Halbj613 · May 19, 2020, 8:29am

thanks man he has helped me so much with my builds and stuff he is def a guy who deserves it

thanks

doomy · May 19, 2020, 10:19am

LCSC package is already on the way

Charclo · May 19, 2020, 12:21pm

In Belgium it seems to be up until a value of 45 if it’s not commercial. You probably have to declare it as a gift then.

Shipments from private individuals to private individuals (not commercial in nature): Here an exemption from duties and taxes (import duties and VAT) is granted for goods shipped up to a value of EUR 45 under the conditions discussed in the previous question.

Commercial items are free from taxes up to 22 euros

https://financien.belgium.be/nl/douane_accijnzen/particulieren/pakketten/faq#q9 (dutch)
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffinancien.belgium.be%2Fnl%2Fdouane_accijnzen%2Fparticulieren%2Fpakketten%2Ffaq%23q9 (english)

Bionic24 · May 19, 2020, 1:03pm

Package is already on its way so no (easy) way to alter the value on the commercial invoice now. If they declared over 25$ you will probably have some import taxes and stuff.

They shipped crazy fast. They probably had some more orders for the same product that they could combine with haha.

fallingdown · May 19, 2020, 2:30pm

Fuuuu been away a few days so missed this ;( I am definitely down for 2 on the next buy if we can get the price fairly close.

If anyone got a spare or if someone changes their mind I can buy their

doomy · May 19, 2020, 3:45pm

I meant when sending the Focers to you guys. I probably just declare 10$ for one unit so you dont have to pay more. Tell me what you think.

@fallingdown
I put you on the waiting list

Bionic24 · May 19, 2020, 5:45pm

Ah right. Forgot you are in Europe but not in the EU .

For Netherlands the total amount should be below 22€ or else you get taxed.

Once received a package of 25€ (real value) and had to pay the postal office 5€ sales tax and 18€ adminstration fees.

MadMaxDK · May 19, 2020, 6:02pm

10$ sounds good. That is just below the Danish limit for import duties.

RobinRubin · May 20, 2020, 5:31pm

Oh yeah, forgot about that part of ordering stuff out of EU…