Bushing and Truck Setup Help Offered

Hardly any weather issues on the USA radar map…might be just incompetence

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@RipTideSports what hardware should I use to make the back slightly stiffer

Also do you know around how hard I should tighten the bolt on the kingpin and how do I know when I have gone to far

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Cups in the rear or Precision washers Starting point is where you can still turn the bushing in the seat by hand with difficulty then a max of 720 degrees of the king pin nut If you need more than than, you need harder bushings

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Hey Brad!
I have been eyeing this thread as I have learned more about longboard truck/bushing technology and how not amazing my stock caliber II’s were (I thought they were great when I first got them)

  1. I have 2 sets of new Kahua trucks with stock 50/50 baseplates.

  2. I wish to buy all new sets of bushings + pivot cup for both from you.

3/4. I have not yet assembled these trucks, I wanted to set up one pair up for high speed 30mph+ and the other for carving below 30mph.

I currently ride boardnamics 220 with split angle 40/50 baseplates + 4x Riptide 93a KranK Barrel.
These are amazingly stable and still turbable in 2 lanes.

  1. Both setups going on hummie/torqueboards drop decks so should be no wheel bite.

  2. I weigh 133 lbs

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Weird USPS didn’t send me an alert, thanks though for the quick turnaround.

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So… because I’ve rode a relatively similar setup to you, just about 10lb less

For carving under 30mph:

Front: cup boardside, 87A Krank Barrel board and street, precision flat washer street

Rear: Cup boardside, 93A Krank Barrel board, 93A/90A Krank Barrel street, flat/cup street

30mph+ - what exactly are you wanting different from your current setup? Tighter turn radius?

Front: Cup board, 90A KB board, 90A/87A KB street, cup/flat street

Rear: Cup board, 93A KB board, 93A/90A KB street, cup street

96A WFB pivots for all

My favorite setup I’ve had so far on a Hummie style deck was 93A KB & cup rear boardside, 3x 87A KB & precision flat washers everywhere else. Was great up to 35mph and plenty of carvability, but keep in mind I’m not a real skater and simply a binding peasant. YMMV

Unfortunately, I lost my 87A’s when moving. Currently have everything coming in to experiment between

2x 87A KB front, 93 board rear 90 street rear
&
90A front board, 87A front Street, 93A rear board, 90A rear street
etc.

I might be being stupid about things, but that could probably sum up most of what I’ve done so far in esk8… I think playing with bushing combos is fun.

Awaiting Brad’s expertise to your question.

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I just want a stable ride without going “overboard” like my boardnamics truck setup might be.

I have a couple years of casual longboard experience, never got into slides and fast downhill just cruising and hitting larger hills without issue. I never experienced a wobble on my boardnamics trucks when I was push-testing them (waiting for parts, still)

I’m sure for the higher speed setup it will be high duro kranks like my current boardnamics trucks, I was just not 100% sure what to pick out on the website given Kahua trucks are not in the list. Would really like to just pay for a personalised invoice haha. I’m good at buying the wrong stuff.

Oh yeah, what type of pivot cups.

It’s been said by Timo that cal II style are best for Kahua. So WFB 96A Cal II.

That aside… if you plan on being in esk8 for a bit, bushing aren’t very expensive in the grand scheme of things for experimenting…

Just buy, all Krank barrels:
2x 96A, 4x 93A, 4x 90A, 2x/4x 87A & be happy

(2x as in, one pair - ~$10)

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I realize now this is definity the best option. I can sell the ones I don’t end up liking

I will most likely agree with you.

I have 4/5 builds worth of parts for a reason

in the wise words of @DerelictRobot

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Do you mean you could turn the truck or you could twist the bushing around?

Twist the bushing in the seat by hand with diffiulty

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$100 in bushings is about all I can handle for a little while, this seems like a good selection to get started with.

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I would have to agree that having a selection available is often a great solution but I rarely recommend it because it smacks of commercialism and laziness on my part. This is a good guide to follow to narrow down the desired shapes: https://www.riptidesports.com/bushing-shapes-info-guide-1/

As you can see the shape of a bushing defines the response and compound defines the amount of adjustability you have with each shape, KranK being the most adjustable and WFB being the least.

In addition to bushings, having a selection of cupped and flat washers is very useful to widen your range of adjustability. Our small flat washers work with Cones and Barrels, large flat washers work mainly for the most boardside with our Chubby, FatCone and Magnum. Our small cupped washer is for Cones and the large cupped washer is for our Barrels and Canons. Washers can be found here: https://www.riptidesports.com/hardware/

Basic guidelines are if you are running a split setup, you will need bigger or harder bushings in the back than you are using in the front. If you are running a symmetrical setup and you want to improve stability, your setup will benefit from the same bushing setup used on a split setup. I call this approach a “Synthetic Split” meaning the truck base plates are the same angle but the trucks are set up to allow the front to turn easier than the rear

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Canons fit the Kahuna seat better than the Barrels and what is your weight?

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Just wanted to say I went the Full-Riptide-Way with my Elofty DKP.
I’m really happy with them (even if I don’t feel it’s night and day like some said)
It’s a great improvement , at a price. :wink:
D.

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Are there any issues that remain? Might just need some minor changes to make it night and day

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My body weighs 133lb approximately or slightly more.

I placed order #19417 btw, should it be modified?

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I suggest changing to Canons and trading one of the 96’s for a second of the 87

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I’d like to reduce my turning radius and I feel it’s not that stable over 30km/h but honestly I couldnt say if it’s due to hardware or just me stressing too much/lacking skills.
I’ve followed your recommendations for evolve dkp.

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Can you take pictures of both the front and rear trucks so I can see the bushings?

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