Yeah or someone who has one of our preproduction sets that were never sold.
Kingpin lock is one of the things we identified and sorted during early testing, long before designs for the airs were finalised for sale. Issues like this are why we have test riders and do multiple hardware revisions of most parts.
I donāt think he had apex Airs. All he says is Pkp. Then made a comment that one of his that he bent were made of
Material stronger than apex
Airs.
Lol @bboybowzer actually reads, they arenāt trampa they arenāt airs, my point was pkp king pins are piss easy to bend, it may not have been locking out the hanger, still donāt change the fact that you can still carve hard enough to bend the king pin.
And again i was mistaken about material
I thought me saying those trucks the v2 of them, no sno trucks and my current ones my mate machined up would do it but guess not 
Awesome feedback 
I assumed he meant in an air as he specifically said airs
Also
My points is that this is not true, weāve never seen a production truck where this has happened. Just because your unnamed PKP bends kingpins does not make that true for all PKP designs.
I am trying to keep things clean but also trying to squash misinformation with facts.
Look man just read the sentence
Iām trying to to give the pros and cons to truck designs and how they feel to ride, and having 4 skinny pieces of steel taking large forces is a con.
Gimmi 2 weeks and a set of airs and i bet iāll bend a king pin
Does anyone know what material kingpins are made of? If they bend relatively easily in a PKP truck, do they need to be larger in diameter to prevent bending?
What have I started. Lol this is fun to read.
You started something really valuable. Lots of people have not ridden PKP trucks. This thread is giving serious insight into the differences between the different types of MTB trucks out there. Also, bending kingpins on PKP trucks is a serious issue that needs to be known.
Agreed the more info it there the better. We just need to separate facts from opinions.
strange assertion given the comments above from a vendor who sells probably the leading esk8 PKP truck, isnāt itā¦
As @ducktaperules said bending kingpins can happen, of course it can as theres no fixed pivot point ankering a hanger (lever arm) to baseplate. This can happen for sure if you smack them hard enough, thatās physics for you. What is important is the frequency of which that can happen, which is very low when it comes to Apex Airs. Anyone could bend an Apex PKP kingpin if you tried but the point is this isnāt common.
Guess what trucks are on this board hereā¦
Andy hasnāt bent a kingpin and heās riding at levels every single person on this forum could only dream of riding.
The kingpins are easily replaceable and we sell them cheap if it did happen.
Is that 1% likely hood a factor on how good a truck is? Well thatās up to your own judgement but if you ride at that level you will bend and break any truck on the market.
Idk about the other pkpās. But air has 12mm kingpins. No easier to bend than an axel, Iād think, and as luck would have it both of those parts are removeable and replaceable.
Hold my beer, rookie shit
If the apex air fit the finality hub system then I might agree with you,
Not necessarily.
The kingpin is dealing with the whole length to the end of the axle as a lever arm.
With super wide hangers, and binding to give the rider the ability to put as much torque in as they want the kingpin is going to see just crazy forces if you put in stiff enough bushings.
Breaking/bending kingpins is already a pretty well known occurrence in DH skate, and in slalom.
At a certain point, with a certain level of riding, broken/bent kingpins are just going to be a thing.
If people in slalom are bending kingpins with 4" hangers, then thereās people out there who are going to be able to bend just about any kingpin on 16" hangers.
Oh Iām sure it can be done. But I wouldnāt call it an inherent flaw in the pkp design. And, at least with airs, itās accounted for well enough by making them easy to replace.
