Yeah, but you didn’t…
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I’m not sure if I would even re-stock PU wheels at all.
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But it speaks to your shifting ethics… at least.
“Oh no!, busted, won’t do that again”
Is no fucking excuse.
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Wasn’t that hard was it? It’s obvious what you admit yet you made that decision when you purchase them. There are also other things that were point out to you which are correct and you won’t admit those. Defending your business is ok especially that you running it ok but stop using this open platform here to gain information and use that to kill your competition. We saw that before…
Something tells me that is the real reason and not that it’s a copy.
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To be honest, I was not aware of the fact that Chris invented this core. I thought it was a generic design existing for decades, used by a lot of different brands.
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Yeah, good due diligence…
It just popped up out of nowhere so fair game, right?
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Dammit, I read the writeup before all this shit went down and missed it all.
Where’s my fucking popcorn gif
@Luke thank you for sharing that email
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So, by your (new?) standards as long as one sticks his head in the sand and acts like he’s ignorant, everyone is fine right?
Hey, guys, here’s 1000 new escs I bought and stuck my brand on. Not my responsibility. Someone said they’re exact copies of something called Vesc6, but hey, I didn’t know and now as I come to think of it, I’m not that interested in the single esc business anyways, boring, so when these 1000 units are gone, I’ll probably move over to dual escs. Still friends, right, Frank?
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Frank is my enclosure ok?
It’s a box with cables going into it and holds electronics. Infringing or no?
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As a consumer, a similar design benefit all of us. Imagine buying new pulleys every time we had to change wheels, it would be a nightmare restricting the whole industry. Please don’t go design new wheels patterns, we won’t be able to afford that.
Then for the ESCape, the same design could had it benefit from a lot of trampa accessories, like the waterproof rubber case, or even double heat shrinks if people ever design those…
Everyone is trying to “copy” the leaders in the industry… it’s everywhere.
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That obviously is a vesc6 clone! You better rip that box off immediately!!!
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My head is kinda square shaped, and with headphones on, it’s got both electronics and cables coming out of it. Is it a copy?
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Clearly a copy of trampa emtb, we can clearly see an infringed patent on those wheels, deck, battery box, it even have their bindings rebranded by a company named M…beee S?
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Dammit the bindings! They hold my feet to a board.
Watch out yobis
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The difference is: You see a new product popping up, study it and replicate it. It is a complex product.
It takes you some months to replicate. You are fully aware of what you are doing, get a feedback on the matter and still continue to do the 1:1 clone.
That differs a bit from:
You buy in stuff that has no IP attached to it and is on the market for 20 years (don’t know exactly when the original ABECs popped up). However, I would not purchase these again.
We have very few items that we didn’t design ourselves. Usually we design all our stuff from scratch.
I try to avoid buying in available goods where I can. However, in this case we bought some existing wheels. The problem Chris faces: The clone wheels are very often marketed as ABEC 11 wheels, so actually in the same colour scheme and with ABEC 11 brand usage.
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So you really thought you buying a California made urethane wheel from a Chinese manufacturer for pennies and then reselling them at a thousand percent markup?
Anyone who’s held urethane Wheels knows that the quality of abec clones urethane is trash.
I feel bad giving them away
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Not China and the urethane is specified.
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Not California
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I wouldn’t say trash. But the quality difference is really noticeable.
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Every clone I’ve ridden is absolute garbage
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