A simpler alternative to VESC? Interest?

Is this motoor amps or battery amps?
Impressive if battery, not horrible if motor.

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This hasn’t been true for the past two releases of VESC Tool with the addition of the firmware archive.

Additionally, tool version 6.02 removes the “firmware too old” warning when trying to set up a remote.

If you weren’t so resistant to updates, maybe you’d see this progress :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

However, there are definitely still many quirks and hazards associated with programming with VESC Tool without having a deep understanding of all the settings and some of the history of the tool, which aren’t well documented at all.

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yeah I run 6.0 on everything and have not had a single issue (minus the firmware too old glitch, which is now fixed)

This.

Not being able to find up to date tutorials as well.

A lot of struggle coming from the Flipsky remotes.

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This is false, it’s still difficult if not impossible to find older tool versions, if you want to. They really push updates hard.

I use the newest version sometimes, and see what they do, it’s just done in a way that still tries to force the newer versions as much as possible, while still being able to claim otherwise. And they also complain about other folks trying to solve the problem they create.

Basically, VESC is only as relevant as they are, because there isn’t a really good other option yet.

We can agree on this, for sure.

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For other ESCs, does the claimed amount of current refer to battery or motor?

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I believe it varies company to company. Not really sure though as I’m a simpleton that runs 3 60d+'s.

It’s always motor because that’s the easiest to achieve big marketing numbers with.

$250 gets you a vesc based ESC capable of a lot more watts.

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Then you need a remote so VESC + remote would be a minimum of around $350.

What do you guys think would be a reasonable price for the ESC/remote combo I described above?

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I think you guys are proving my point. VESC is complicated.

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One thing I’d like to see in these style controllers is to not be fully potted.
This allows the ability for actual repair as opposed to just becoming more e-waste.
Proper conformal coatings should provide protection, yet still allow repairs.

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$200 seems reasonable but I’m not sure how feasible that is with materials/labor cost.

I feel like if it’s $240, most would rather get a dv4/6 and a VX1 and call it good :thinking:

There is a metric shit ton of settings in vesc that mean nothing for esk8/ should never be changed for 99% of esk8s.

If we could clear (Hide and explain better) these pitfall settings that no one building an esk8 should touch, and add guard rails to a lot of settings, vesc could be very approachable.

The solution is an esk8 specific fork of vesc. Making cheaper hardware is not hard.

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That’s another alternative. It could possibly lower the cost of a VESC. An interface that would make it easier to use might take a while to make.

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I think one issue right now is the good/decent VESC offerings are geared toward performance boards. I recently rebuilt an old board and I couldn’t justify spending >100A money for a kick-around, grab-and-go-and-grab-again board (pun intended). I don’t want to pay for features I know I am not using.

The only cheap option is Flipsky. I did get a Turnigy though because I was feeling extra adventurous. I didn’t want to get a Hobbywing because it wouldn’t be flexible enough for my experiment test bed build.

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People seem to forget that single drive is even a thing

Anyone ever thought about going 3 wheel drive?

That little braking force (grip) and redundancy is not very desirable to me and many others I’ve spoken to.

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Single drive is just unsafe. And that’s coming from someone that ran single drive for like 6 months.

Every time I’ve had to run a board with 1 motor, it becomes immensely more difficult to ride, as even with bn184 there’s noticeable torque steer and no grip while braking.

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This could be a viable option too. A ESK8 specific VESC. Simpler interface. That has the potential to be something really special.

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