i remember seeing a russian youtube channel that has a guy with 2wd climbing a steep slope from a standstill, still made it up no problem 
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I climb bike ramps without a stress and i’m geared for 78km/hr. There was also a guy in my area with a short range trampa doing a almost 100% (45°) incline with a bit of picked up speed, all in 2wd
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Well I guess the steeper the slope the less traction of the front wheels since it’s harder to put pressure on front foot.
What I think is a good advantage of 4wd is actually braking not climbing. My thoughts are that it really matters once you need to go down that hill
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legit those hills they went up they did on a 2wd, even I’ve been up steeper hills on 2wd. vesc 4.2s will blow up on an emtb
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I just posted one of my 4WD boards in the “Completes for Sale” thread.
I am in a less is more phase of life and perhaps that could get you on a properly built reliable board faster as spring is rapidly approaching.
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sounds like you hear 2wd and you stop listening, he says it was easier with 4wd, and the fact of the matter is that it is. It’s just physics man
I think you guys are missing the point. I am not saying 2wd can’t climb stuff, but 4wd will climb more stuff that 2wd can’t, it’s just 2 and 2, and obviously true, if you have 4 wheels doing work vs just 2 you can do more stuff, all else equal
what if the load is distributed on 4 of them?
Thank you I appreciate the looking out. It’s over my budget and already placed an order unfortunately
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yeah balance could be the limiting factor as many have said, not the board
better braking is a plus for sure
That’s the important point. With your setup it’s not equal.
If you have the extra money you can go the extra way to go 4wd. But you should never go 4wd if your money is barely enough for a good 2WD. In a Drag race a strong 2wd boards will still beat your 4x flipsky 4.20 setup
Nobody says 4wd is worse than 2wd but crap 4wd is worse than good 2wd.
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well the only thing that worries me is the 4.2s at this point, but we’ll see
And the Trucks with bad stability and the open belt drive that gets dirty and destroys belts and the not so great deck…
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You are not necessarily correct here. As far as raw power goes, the trampa 2wd can probably push just as much as your shitty vescs can in 4wd. Not to mention, the steeper the hill, the less traction you have at the front. When the front spins out, you are at about half the power of the 2wd trampa (considering how many amps those cheap vescs can realistically do contionously without blowing up or hitting thermal throttle). The steeper the hill, the more likely the front will loose traction, especially offroad. Also the front spinning out can be enough of a problem, if you have good control over the board (see: good truck, deck, bindings). With the wobbly chinesium trucks you will likely eat the ground because of a wobble, or just lack of control when you most need it (for example over a really bad bump or when you loose traction).
Also the cheap trucks will make your board feel awful to ride at all times. Those are not good for anything. I just don’t understand why you gone that route. It makes zero sense.
You would have a much better board if you were to follow the advice that everyone gives you. You don’t have to make the same mistakes that some already made. 9 inch tires, dual 6374-6384, high quality vescs, good trucks and a good deck. Not to mention gear drives might fit in a 2wd budget so you don’t snap those belts all the time when there is mud or snow. You will be able to climb every hill that you throw at the board. If not, you still have the option to go 10 inch. The more I read this thread, the more I think you already made up your mind before asking and just came here expecting we will support you in going the cheap and crap 4wd route. We told you not to go that route, and you just ignored it. Hope you can get the most out of of your board, but I doubt it will be nearly as rewarding experience as a proper 2wd. Rant over.
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I am going to support the OP here. It’s his money. If he wants to burn it that’s fine.
Invariably, he’s going to have to sell the cheap parts and someone on here will grab a bargain. Its a win-win. OP gets to scratch his itch and soon, someone will be able to buy those parts for a dirt-cheap price when the OP realises his mistakes.
@solice77 Go ahead with the 4WD. No need to listen to anyone.
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I didn’t even consider how he’s left with 2 4.xx no heatsink vescs in the back as soon as he hits any loose terrain. Damn…
Ok, let’s be serious, at room temperature in open air convection those things hit thermal limit in 40 seconds, demonstrated by Vedder. In an enclosure i expect that time to be close to half. This build gets 20 seconds of full 4wd, 2 current shunt acceleration and then delivers the power of a £300 meepo until it’s left to cool down for a few minutes. Meanwhile a dual 6374 with a decent 6.xx based vesc pushes 70A on each motor at any moment, under any duration, and can be easily boosted to 90-100A/motor in case he could still stand on his feet at 140A total.
@mutantbass who would end up buying these? On a forum where you can find a full set of matrix 2 trucks with wheels for around £200 if you’re patient, who still hunts for the bottom of the aliexpress barrel? These parts belong on reddit and facebook groups at 90% of the purchase costs, here he’d be called out immediately on the value of them. Vescs and motors would go for around £30 each and not much else
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lol… I think an appropriate name for my board will be ‘The Hated 1’. It’s quite fitting, and it has a kind of nice redeeming quality to it being such an underdog, and if I ever build a second one, it could be ‘The Hated 2’, cause people will probably also hate it… launch a whole new line of Hateds…
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i mean i’m pushing 120a thru each of my vesc 6s, tbh i’d rather use rc car escs instead of vesc 4.2s
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Man this thread is full of the weirdest opinions…
Why would you want to use RC escs over 4.12… That makes no sense to me
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