Everybody like what everybody likes… That’s the genuis of inquisitive peeps and science…
Lean is a function of the heim joints range of motion which is termed “misalignment”. The turn to lean ratio is determined by the translated base plate angle and the greatest possible lean comes at zero degrees and diminishes from there…
Here are the results of lean vs steering at various “base plate angles”
but I gotta ask you… do you like the turny-turny of a deck angle of 30 degrees or do you just wanna lean the board over more…
i feel common-sense approach on these trucks is to set the ride height to what you wish, and then dial in the truck articulation…
I’d bet the adjustability of 3-links let’s you dial in the truck articulation for the ride height one prefers…
but Brad brought up a significant fact… the heim miss-alignment I measured was ~~~ 30 degrees… the exact numbers are in my notes at the shop…
I like both on different setups, but mostly its just the ability to get the deck really leaned out.
However, I think I might have misunderstood earlier.
When you were talking about ride height, I was assuming you were talking about needing to have the board higher to keep the rail off the ground for the lean.
But are you saying that with the NKP, adjusting for more lean is going to result in more height, or that its co-dependent on other adjustments?
And yeah, in regards to Brad.
I’m referring to actual deck lean, not truck articulation angle.
Leaning that far normally means de-tuning the truck, so I’d probably be trying to get my steering angle around 35 degrees.
place saved… great questions but I’m too high… i’ll answer ya laters if peeps 'tween now and then…
I am referring to deck lean also. A 56 degree base plate angle give you a total of 31.5 degrees of range. Divide that by 2 to determine deck lean in both directions so 15.75 degrees of deck lean in both directions
Looks awesome! However im wondering about the deck, it looks a little flat
It is. Just the way I like it. Flat with a 7 cm wide little concave
Looks awesome man! I love the new 3 link design!
I should go and finish a set for myself.
Changing the ride height does alter the geometry of the trucks because the relationship between the central heim and the arm pick up points changes. Can you quantify the difference David between one height and plus or minus 10mm?
In the video where I do the turning comparison, the smaller turning radius (secon circle) is with the carrier lever to the baseplate (normal setup as they come) and the lager radius (first circle) is with a 10mm lower ride height. (Carrier extending 10mm beyond the baseplate).
It’s a quite large difference and you need to adjust some of the other things to have same turning but a different height.
Thanks for that link! It really makes me appreciate owning one myself.
I’ve noticed that as well… running super low ride height really does effect the turning resolution…
when all the links start to run flat, IMHO, wonky handling or lack of resolution between turning input and steering resolution occur…
IMHO, ride height adjustability with 3 links may be better achieved with risers or no risers
that’s the truth… especially when you consider how much effort is required in even a simple ride-height adjustment…
presently I’m looking for a great feel, and maneuvering, and stability, plus low ride-height…
Red Ember 4 the win
Ahh thanks Brad. I thought I posted the video, but now I see that it doesn’t play,