I just roughed them up more with sandpaper and then by rubbing them on the road by hand.
Fingers crossed!
Ps the wheels Im comparing them too were pure gloss when I started using them but did not chatter.
Its looking like both the surface finish and wheel profile are to blame.
did you chuck the wheels on a drill or lathe when sanding it?
Incoming flat spots 
That last pictures, it looks like the wheels could still be new, just dusty
Haha there are no flat spots. I did it by hand evenly rotating as I went
After swapping all the wheels and bearings that I own tonight, I have my answer, and its nothing to do with profile, nothing to do with the running surface either.
I started on the three weather wheels and bearings to get a base line. They worked beautifully as usual.
I then swapped to the abec 107s with biltins and on the 3rd turn it vibrated so badly I was thrown off the board.
I went back to the workshop and swapped the biltin bearings into the three weather wheels and the problem was gone again.
So the problem existed only in the abec 107 wheels regardless of which bearing I put in and as I was putting the bearings back in the 107s the answer hit me in the face.
The plastic core of the 107s is too large for the bearings. Its a non interference fit and the bearings, both sets, fall very easily into place where as they take considerable effort to press in to the three weather wheels.
The crazy ass vibrations I am experiencing are caused by the abec11 cores and their over sized hole.
I know none of you lot want to hear this but I have just proven my theory of the abec11 bearing fit being too loose which caused the whole problem.
I received my trucks from Haggy, and in the box is a free set of brand new senor pepe 90mm wheels.
Thank you so much Haggy, your stuff is seriously high quality.
Anyway, I take these shiny new wheels, fit the same biltin bearings, I had to use a press as my little finger could not do the job this time lol.
I take to the street, and put in some serious carves.
NOT ONE CHATTER
All I got was traction.
You guys who refused to look outside the box really got it wrong here.
The abecs11 wheels are death traps that I will never ride again.
I would love to speak to the company, or Chris Chaput himself,as they seem to have no contact details or website I would love if someone send him a link to this thread so we can talk like men.
Once again thank you Haggy, your quality is amazing and your stuff just works.
I think to really prove its the bearing seat, you would have to insert a tight fitting bearing into the abec wheels and test them again.
Not sure if there is a good way to do this? Maybe you could put a little paint on the bearing outer surface so itās a tight fit.
I have had some wheels make weird creaking sounds when carving hard, not chatter but just unpleasant sounds. It came from using too much grease and some grease getting between the bearing and the plastic seat of the hub. After I cleaned them up real good and gettting rid of excess grease the sound was gone.
That would only be proving a defective bearing seat vs another part of the wheel being defective.
That I can press the bearings in with my little finger is something to be respected IMO.
Ive been a skater my whole life, Ive gone through more wheels and bearings than half these kids have had hot dinners from their mothers kitchen upstairs as they offer up their sage advice.
But never have I been able to press bearings with my little finger.
Never have I had a set of wheels behave like these ones do.
They ARE defective and it will not be me that rides them again to prove it to the M manners out there. I got no horse in the forum identity race that is rife in these parts.
Another thing to note is how ill conveived advice can be passed off as gospel by peeps who would rather maintain face and reputation than find truth. The whole forum loses face when that shit is allowed to go down.
The ostrich effect is strong.
Peace out boys.
Yep, wheels arenāt always perfect. Try pushing and pulling your tightened wheel along the axle. If it moves then your bearings are probably too far apart. Might not be the problem but easy to check.
I mean if the bearing seat was lose thatās kinda on you for not saying something as yiur the only dude with anything in hand. Many people have used abec wheels for years without this issue and are just trying to help you find a solution.
Iāve got 90mm superflyās with over 1000km on them and the bearing seat is just at the point where I can insert my bearing by hand, before I could only pop bearings in by clamping the wheel down on truck and dropping all my body weight.
Maybe consider all the replies of people here trying to help you, even if they didnāt give the answer you wanted, itās not like youāre paying themā¦
And if youāve been a skater your whole life how did it take you 3 days and riding to realize that the bearing seat was fucked? Idk
Be a little more grateful and a little less salty dude, itāll increase your lifespan.
You have proven it for 1 wheel, maybe a set. Not a lot of value there.
I donāt want you to prove anything to me, you are obviously biased so you opinion holds no reliable value. I tried to help you, you went into full on dick mode, Iām done.
The questions you need to ask areā¦
Whatever, Im not really interested in the answer, just thought Iād try an help again.
Maybe itās just me, my superflys have always been this lightly loose in the bearing seat and although the tiny bit of wobble has always had me concerning, Iāve never had any trouble when riding them.
@Saltyfingore Mike is very respectful, so let me take a different tact. When you act like a condescending asshole to anyone and everyone when they are just trying to offer you help, you make it much less likely that those people (or any people, for that matter) will continue to try and help you in the future.
You seem confident in your own knowledge and experience. Good for you champ. But the thing is, no one here cares to hear you talk about what a smart boy you are when you are a massive dick about it.
No one is forcing you to be present in this community, and when you disrespect members (anyone, not just the big names) that are trying to share their knowledge (read: the whole point of a forum) the only person you are hurting is yourself.
Interesting.
I know poor fitting bearing seats are definitely a thing that sometimes happens, but its not something Iāve ever experienced. Bearings shouldnāt have to be put in with a shop press or anything though.
I would shim the bearings by wrapping the outside once with scotch tape.
Might try that on my wheels, 97mm black refly 74a and they are making a clicking noise. Not the ones on the back, the front ones (not an overly tight belt causing creaking). Compared to my trampa gummies, BKB 97mm wheels and MBS 100mm wheels, the same bearings seem to go in way easier in the reflies. Iāll post some pictures of the bearing seat when Iāll have time. All of the wheels are exibiting the same behaviour. Might simply be a bad batch, stuff like that happens.
