VESC-Tool 2.04: FW 5 >> A BIG STEP FORWARD

0 for 20. Think this one is a shitty boat anchor.

Just want to add to this conversation that i couldn’t update either vesc 6 from 5.1 to 5.2 over bluetooth, but after updating the bootloader on both, it worked flawlessly. I have no idea from what version bootloader it changed or even if it flashed the exact same file but it seems to have done the thing

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For the ones who want to try some kick ASS sensorless startup:

https://vesc-project.com/node/2859

On the VESC 6 MKV and HD it will perform best, but also older designs will have a much nicer startup now. Just run a detection and switch to sensorless. Nothing else is needed.
This is Beta software for the ones who like to play around a bit and test the bleeding edge stuff.

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Welcome to the end of motor sensors!

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If you have a vesc that supports it…?

Nope, even older ones will have a pretty nice startup now.

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Does A.S.S. benefit the most from hardware that has the phase voltage filters?

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How do you define older ones.

Older trampa ones (mk3/4/5)

or older hardware in general v4/v6 non tramoa vescs . Unity/xenith, Flipsky, makerX, my 2 year old 4.12 TB vesc etc

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Test it, we can not test all HW from third party companies.

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Obviously. It’s a difference if it’s a hardware based feature or solely software.

If you say A.S.S does NOT need a specific niche part built into the vesc to work then any vesc should work. That’s what im asking.

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Something like phantom kohmingulators for example.

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I’m wondering if the max capability of A.S.S. is tied to hardware with phase voltage filters. And then hardware without the phase voltage filters can still use it but just not as well. @Trampa am I correct?

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It might work better on some ESCs than others and it can also depend on the motor.
I guess we will see some feedback soon.

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Sort of correct, yes.

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Ok thanks. Just trying to understand the known factors at play here. I understand motors are a mixed bag and so is 3rd party hardware.

And we all know that sometimes details also play a role. We don’t know how well designed certain controllers are. It is simply not in our hands. Small details can make a lot of differences.
Some designs will be better than others and that is in the hands of the manufacturer.
And then we talk SYSTEM. Controller A with motor B or motor C etc…
I’m 100% sure Benjamin Vedder will try to make it as good as possible to work on the widest set of HW.

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Cool! I’ll check it out.

Are there any details anywhere on what A.S.S. is doing from a technical standpoint? I know I can dissect the code and figure it out eventually. Just asking for convenience sake.

That is a question for the master himself on his forum. Accurate phase voltage measurement plays a big role. BV stated that he could get it to 100% perfection if he combines it with a tiny HFI bleep in future. So our boards will probably bleep for a fraction of a second and then pull off with 100% torque.

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