The situation is quite different relative to the last couple of decades. Everyone can see the military build up and increasing tension between China and the West.
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I do realize I beat the China drum a little hard at times, but I stand by my convictions. We depend on them, and their cheap labor way too much. Change must start somewhere though, and why not something as small as easily machined goods?
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Baby steps @DerelictRobot, the electronics industry is the hardest part of this, I know.
I wonder if we were able to manufacture electronics here in the US, at a reasonably good price, I could finally get the OSSR I so much want? 
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Obviously this is getting way offtopic for precision trucks thread but…
My sense is that in China people are raised by the state with a strong sense of China being persecuted by the west. And in part rightly so. During the “century of humiliation” the west was pretty nasty to China: Britain fought a war to keep the Chinese addicted to opium when the government tried to block opium imports. The government might not be truly communist buts it’s definitely authoritarian which is probably even worse. Authoritarian governments always find anti-foreign sentiment useful to distract from their own failings.
I think that’s why there’s zero respect for the rights of foreign companies. Why should there be when foreigners never had respect for China? Invite companies in, grab their technology, then cut them off. Manufacture for them, steal the designs, and resell them. Nothing else makes sense from this point of view.
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I’ve been here long enough to know your sentiments on manufacturing in China and for the most part I share them. I have a very similar story to your own.
Ideally I would mill these myself, but living in campus apartments makes that not a possibility. An alternative I have tried pushing has been to use your hangers, but while I know the width hits the spot people want, I’m not sure of gear drive options.
So China. The company I use is small and, honestly, I don’t care if they steal my design and sell them for cheaper. Because that would mean I could get them cheaper. I make maybe $5-10 on the existing dkp for my time tapping the axle holes and putting on the helicoils.
Like I have said, no desire to be a vendor. There’s no money in it (especially compared to game development), but I wanted precision dkp trucks with angles similar to SR. So here we are.
And honestly if anyone wants my cad files, I will happily give them up. I love esk8ing, I love carving, and I especially love building.
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Much respect bro.
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I wish more folks would swallow this tough pill.
Unless you are going all-in with production like LaCroix has, theres a good chance turning Esk8 into a business will ultimately result in you giving up your beloved hobby in exchange for a business that will barely support said hobby while sucking a lot of fun out of it.
The effort-reward ratio here qualifies it as a “labor of love” only IMO.
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Those cad files could be useful, im working on developing a better adjustable baseplate system and need precise measurements lol, would that be alright?
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I’ll post them when I am at my computer
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Baseplate.step (72.1 KB)
Double King Pin ver 5.step (240.4 KB)
Hanger ver 2.step (257.0 KB)
Razillian TKP 220 Axle v10.step (566.6 KB)
Names should be pretty self explanatory, Hanger ver 2 is the original hanger. Razillian TKP 220 is the new one.
Let me know if you need them in something other than a step file format
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When I waa exporting the files I got my first real look at the difference between the original 180 hangers and the new design 220. I really like the new design, I might have to do a 180 version of those 
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This pill which you currently speak of, is currently stuck in my throat.
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You nearly got this right.
It sucks ALL the fun out of it.
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A quantity of one does not a group buy make. But the hanger file is posted above, so anyone is free to get a pair made.
I still have some 180 hangers, dkp seats, and baseplates sitting in boxes if anyone wants the original style.
Had to take another couple pics, because my Demonseed does not get as much turn (or lean) as the fiance’s Bustin.
Just standing…
Full turn/lean:
Yes, all 4 tires are on the ground
Maybe I’m not trying hard enough with the Demonseed
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Very cool. I still think there is lots of potential in DKPs. Crazy fun to carve on and will suit a bunch of that are not speed demons. It would be cool to see further development.
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I’d really love to shave off another cm (or 2) from the total height. The problem has always been the kingpin in the middle piece. One option would be to use kingpins like SR does and thread in a helicoil for it to screw into. This could allow me to move the bushing seat for the deckside hanger bushing forward so its over the pivot and reduce the height a bit.
But that’s a lot of tweaking to get everything right without a cnc mill of my own or the space for it. Plus most diyers want speed and others can’t fathom the difference properly designed dkp can make in stability vs gullwing knockoffs.
Really the only way to produce precision dkp is as part of a production deck like Metroboard did.
Why usw helicoils and not directly threaded? You think the kingpin would rip the threading?
What material are your DKPs made of anyway?
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Steel hardware on aluminum components can cause galling and other issues, while it would probably be fine, aluminum thread isnt ideal.
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