Skike - A eSK8 parts based eBike

Batteries are magic :grinning:

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Discovered a fatal flaw, it you ride on the right (wrong) type of mud, it starts building up on the motor, and since the motor is hot, it dry fast and become really hard, up to a point everything starts vibrating, if not cleaned regularly I fear it might snap the motor or pop the tire

Some parts I was having to stop every 500 m

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You could attach a scraping thingy on the mount?

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Good idea, will see how I can mount it

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Also that motor isnā€™t exactly sealed, be mindful of rocks and whatnot making it into the stator and scratching or cracking everything. I use thin metal mesh that I can bend around contours.

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Iā€™m keeping an eye on it, this motor already have a lot of miles on it from my previous boards, and still going strong

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Carry on then brother.

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The bike is doing great apart from the minor problems already described

A friend of mine is doing one, but with my initial idea of two motors with a two or three stage gearing, one that can climb everything. Given that, I added more functionality to my spreadsheet, now it can calculate acceleration time for various speed interval and grades

Unfortunately there is a nasty bug that is screwing with the calculations when motor and battery is not the same, need to dig a bit more on it, and also translated it so anyone can use, once I fix it will post here

here is just playing with the idea of a electric motorcycle using a bunch 63XX motors

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Sorry to backtrack - why couldnā€™t the sprocket also be the brake disc? Just make a water/laser-cut brake disc with sprocket teeth. Of course the caliber would need to be mounted on the chain stay, or very low on the seat stay. Just need to make sure not to lube the chain!

If you go down this path check out Rocky Mountainā€™s mid drive design. The chain torque sensor is positioned to measure rider input regardless of what the motor is doing. This means they donā€™t need all the bottom bracket and cadence sensor BS like Shimano Steps, etc. Itā€™s where I got the idea to make the simple resistor based sensor I posted earlier.

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Also this system shouldnā€™t need a freewheeling crankset (unless you get a flat battery) Most mid drives need this feature to hide motor lag. Either youā€™re slow to push the button, or if itā€™s a traditional (BB) torque sensing unit the controller has to wait for cadence sensor input to be sure you arenā€™t just standing on the pedals. With a system like the RM one the rider input and motor output torque are almost simultaneous. Feels really nice to ride, and wouldnā€™t be too hard to make as a DIY I think.

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No worries. Maybe, with a bike caliper mounted as it is no, there is no room inside it for the chain to go through, and running without lubrication would destroy the chain in no time

That being said, a reverse disc, with the caliper mounted from the inside, with a barrier to avoid oil getting on the pad section of the disc of a dry lubricant could work, but it still a bit tricky to hold the disc in place

This is a really nice solution, Iā€™ve seen the folks from ebikes.ca using it on some custom bikes, having a torque based assist would be awesome, I will think about it

The torque sensing part is easy, the problem with all these ideas is the price of machining the components, even that can be made cheaper by just going laser cut parts, but one or two custom axles is unavoidable

There are a few helical gear sets on Aliexpress that could work

For the next version I will do the motor directly geared to the pedals using a #25 chain, gearing will probably be around 10:1 using a 9T and 90T sprockets, chain is on mail, I want to measure it first to be sure, all sprockets will be laser cut stainless

I want the bike bike working so I can get back to riding far, since I donā€™t commute right now and barely have places to go, none to be exactly due to corona, all will be bolted to the frame, the battery will be house in the triangle with a 3D printed and stainless combo enclosure, with room to the FSESC and this time space to play around if I want to add more things to the bike

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Incoming

Hopefully will have some time to put it together next week

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Guess I never updated here and completely forgot

The above setup worked reasonably well

But it has its problems and itā€™s not reliable

The main issue is that the the crank shaft isnā€™t rigid enough, so your chain tension changes as you pedal, and there isnā€™t a sweet spot or itā€™s tight enough to not skip but still loose enough to not have a ton of drag and too much tensions which will break the chain and motor

So the solution is to make a spring loaded tensioner, didnā€™t start yet because I still havenā€™t found a good way to do it

But first step was to replace the motor pinion, the laser cut ones worked but again not good enough, specially since I needed to make some 3D printed spacers to lock it in place, and that cracks way to easy

Got this comercial pinion which had a 6 mm hole, had to drill it and surprisingly it came out perfectly centered with a jig and tons of double and triple checking before drilling


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So, I have a plan, now letā€™s print the plan again because I screwed up the first time since my laziness prevented me from going upstairs to get my calipers to measure the tube, and instead I used a ruler to do it, which went totally wrong

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