Like I said earlier in the thread. I swear I never had any co-ordination with @Brenternet. I dont know what else I can say.
Oh you ninja edited me ha
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I canāt blame you, though personally I would wait a bit longer, since Paypal protection would allow for another 2 weeks to start a dispute. Especially since people said they are actually receiving their orders, I think itās more likely than not that you will receive it even if Jeff is not who we think.
Even with the evidence, I am still thinking the possibility where all this is a misunderstanding and Jeff is penalized unfairly -itās possible that disputes count against some sort of trader reputation for Paypal, who knows.
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And not using their wifi
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Sorry, my keyboard is faster than me,
what I mean is what you do isnāt the problem because it is your right, and after experiencing such a thing, i would certainly do the same also in the future. (also, I like you and what you did : builds/vlog/vids/pics, kind of fan indeed)
But where do these rumors come from, and everything revolves around having the end of the story : is that true?
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Deffo brother, thank you. We all need the end of the story, itās just we dont have all the facts and I personally think we never will.
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So true! I know that first hand.
My take is Jeff is Jeff but some things are interesting.
When I first saw his deck I thought wow quite similar to mine but itās ok because I admit I was inspired by JedJr deck to. What was strange for me was that a OWNER of quite large company suddenly came up with such a design out of nowhere. Itās not like wood processing is a core activity for electric car factory. right? Everyone loved it so ok didnāt want to sound like dick and ask those questions but from my experience with integrated decks such a design is taking very long time and it must been done much earlier. Question by who?
Lately I asked about their own cell got no real answers just some people said that Jeff is ok, he has big factory , here are pictures and itās all fine.
I have worked in some middle size companies and believe me higher you are more work and responsibility you have so a owner should not be remotely interested in esk8 forum and have time for it, but I might be wrong.
Jeff is also quite aggressive when something goes a bit wrong. For me a guy who has money and doing this as hobby as he claimed should not be bothered so much.
So Jeff who are you? I belive @Winfly but do you know him like you gave him handshake or just online?
People want proof of identity but does it matter? Companies in China has some kind of number that can be identify by it. Can he provide that? Is any one here knows what is the real company name? NEO is just a brand right?
There are a lot more question and I hope only good things come from all this.
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I dont have the proper tool to tighten the axle nut because my skate tools are too short, so have yet to ride it.
I did run detection and all on the unity, went well. Other than that I got nothing else.
The hubs do look and feel good, but what do I know, these are the first set of hubs I own 
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this might be a more common experience that one would think. How many of us have extra long socket drivers?
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I only do because I have a huge set with short medium and long of inch and metric.
Do those socket extensions not help?
The size of the hubs hole is 18mm. So as long as you have a hex socket tool that is the size for the axle nut and is under 18mm in diameter itll work, but a torque wrench tool with that socket attachment would work bestā¦ and I donāt have it
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@linny do you have a caliber truck that you can test fit these motors on? I want to make sure it fits as I am considering purchasing some in batch 2 ( assuming this mess gets cleared up).
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So Iām a little late but can I still order?
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And it works
As long as the truck has 33mm axle and is smaller than 24mm in hangar diameter, it should be good. 24mm is because the ID of the hub is 24mm. Paris trucks are 19mm for comparison, and Calibers are 22mm.
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Thanks for checking it out for me!
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I believe Jeff was planning a 2nd GB after this one.
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Thank you! Dibs @jeffwuneo
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iām interested on the 2nd GB as well.
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Lee didnāt but I acted the way I did after what I saw, knowing the other evidence against Jeffās alter ego complex.
Vendors in the esk8 scene need to learn a fucking lesson about privacy, dispute resolution keeping promises. Over and over and over again they fuck this community in ways that other industries would crucify them for. Posting private financial dispute information here publicly and slandering Lee the way he did was not good enough.
I donāt really care who Jeff is or isnāt at this point, he needs to learn a lesson on etiquette if he wants to trade with our community. This is not the first time heās done this and the last warnings were not enough clearly. You can white knight the guy all you like, heās not here to make friends, heās here to profit from this group of enthusiasts and until you get that into your heads heās going to keep doing this.
I went out and bought long sockets for this today in preparation for their arrival in 2025 
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Further to this, I have cancelled one of the disputes and am trying to cancel the other one which I escalated in a fit of adolescent rage. They are on it now and it will be closed soon.
The disputes were not to try and steal from anyone or anything stupid like that, people that know me here properly know I would not do that. They were a little message for captain Jeff.
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