I believe there is a “Bitching” thread, perhaps go there and cry your tears, and let this Jeff dude do his thing. Or go out and skate, its what its all about
Oh, no reason at all. Why do you ask?
No one crying here, just interested in figuring out if a scammer is selling things to the community or not and this is the place shits going down.
Bit of a catch 22 when the thread is providing feedback for a product and supplier at the same time.
I’ll take all the blame if it makes any of you feel better. As the robot says,
Bring it in big guy.
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Yeah, Frank would agree with you. All you’ve got to do is prove your ID, then I will publicly apologize.
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Did you bother to read the thread?
https://forum.esk8.news/t/neobox-open-source-focbox-variant-hw-4-and-hw6-design/12426/2933?u=mmaner
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We all are. The question is if he is actually doing that or is this a new identity for Jed Boards. If it not Jed then all is good. All that I have asked for is that he confirm he is not Jeremy Bogan to a trusted 3rd party, he keeps trying to wiggle out of it.
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Just wondering but in the event he might be Jed or Jeremy (sorry not well versed in es8 history. All I know is something happened and people got scammed), if he continues to deliver is that not a good thing? Or are you trying to point out that the previously scammed people should get compensated first?
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What if this is an invented persona for or he is partnered with Jeremy Bogan/Jed Boards? In itself, I don’t care if he sells, but he shouldn’t get a pass on all the people he screwed just because he has no compunction about lying.
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Gotcha and I agree, people who have done wrong in the past should make amends to those who have been wronged and to the community as a start.
Still, if this is the case, do we out right ban or remove a vendor? I understand in the case like mBoard where the stuff that is being pushed is literal crap but Jeff is offering a quality product at a very attractive (to me 
) price. I’m not trying to say I’d sell my soul (depends on the day) but what would you propose as a solution? It seems like all the solutions are zero-sum game because the community would lose out and so would Jeff.
For the record, not exactly taking a side but personally, I’m going to believe that Jeff is Jeff until proven otherwise without a doubt (no need to show me the proof either , it’ll come to light on it’s own). Doing my best not to let that influence any discussion and hope y’all don’t view my opinions different because of it either. Sorry for further derailing too
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I support @mmaner here. All he’s doing really is just making sure us users will not get duped.
This whole “drama” wouldn’t have been an issue if “Jeff” would have not let his emotions take over and post PM stuff.
Thanks @mmaner
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I am in agreement here that @jeffwuneo could easily and legally squash this issue with very little effort, but has avoided to do so. It doesn’t look good. Not sure why someone would act that way unless they have something to hide.
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At this point, I would abstain from voting on the issue. My objective is to see the truth revealed to everyone. If it turns out out be true, I’ll leave the consequences to others.
You are very welcome brother. Thank you.
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Again… we have jedboards who wouldnt even pay the sponsorship fee for Colorado, let alone communicate with customers…
And jeff who has replaced several of his cracked boards and got us neboxes at an incredible speed and low price…
I have a hard time believing these two business ppl are the same.
I get @mmaner wanting to dot his I’s and cross his T’s and i get @jeffwuneo being worried since he does live in a different country with different rules. . I think both parties have valid points but both are also being a bit paranoid. Anyways, this issue should just get resolved and put to rest. Maybe he can show a yearbook photo that has his name and picture to match? Does china do yearbooks?
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Agreed, I wasn’t asking for a vote but I do see how my poor phrasing might have suggested otherwise. Was mostly just curious how things would be handled since this seems unprecedented on the forum but I’m definitely more than okay leaving that question unanswered 
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@jeffwuneo norak234 @BillGordon @Dareno @jamie @mmaner @Sender @Zach
Aloha Gang -
First i’d like to acknowledge that I do not have a dog in this fight nor do I pretend to understand the entirety of the history or allegations related to Jeff Wu’s identity or intent to conduct business with forum users.
Speaking only from my perspective I request (2) actions from the Mods/Admins
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Take the discussion related to Jeff’s Identity to PM, come to a mutually agreed resolution and report back to the forum. I took it upon myself to open a private PM to get the ball rolling.
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Move the back and forth that is unrelated specifically to HW4 and HW6 Design out of this topic. Keeping these items in the thread make it challenging for users to find details related to the neoBox design details
I appreciate i may be overstepping a boundary and welcome scrutiny to my approach.
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I dig it, I didn’t think you were. I just assume in the hypothetical instance there will be a mod vote. I will abstain from that, I’ve done what I wanted to do, I’ve brought it to the public’s attention.
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Guys @mmaner is trying to protect you. It’s a good idea to verify every vendor not only @jeffwuneo .
For example if you are registered company in Poland you can go to goverment site and check.
https://prod.ceidg.gov.pl/CEIDG/CEIDG.Public.UI/SearchDetails.aspx?Id=9dd3855c-f0e4-4dbe-bce7-03301685a74b
It’s in polish I know but what you can find there is:
- full name of owner
- tax id number
- registration number
- full address of the company
- PKD which is a number that indentify what type of company is that and in what sector
Link above is my friend company and this is a public data. Than he could send you your ID and all things match up.
That would be all what @jeffwuneo could do and would be reasonable to all vendor do.
I believe in Sweden there’s lot more data available to public right @linsus?
Why you people think that because some one deliver some item could not be asked for some verification? There’s no bad will in that.
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There’s even more posts of you “crying” about people “crying”. This White Knight shit is getting pathetic.
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Honestly, really sorry that you are dealing with this. My suggestions would be to not engage with bullies. Just talk to your customers and people with feedback or suggestions regarding your products.
@everyone, Jeff has shared multiple photos of him and his family and events in private telegram groups consistently over the past year. And he’s not Jed.
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I’m going to give my 2 cents on the subject and not engage further 'cause I (personally) don’t think this is a constructive discussion…
So why have I not seen any other vendors get hounded for their ID and photos?
I agree with this philosophy… Jeff has so far delivered beyond any expectations I had last year and that’s commendable. I don’t see how they could be the same person.
The connection with join times and IP addresses is tenuous at best, especially with China having one of the lowest unique IP’s per 1000 citizens… And with the great firewall… I know Jeff has said he doesn’t use a VPN but perhaps some other proxying service caused the IP’s to match up, idk…
I think there’s a lot of really not-so-healthy dialogue going on here and we would all benefit from cooling it a lil… I understand wanting to hold scammers like jedboards accountable, but don’t let the screens between you make you forget that - just like all of us - @jeffwuneo is just a regular dude with hopes and dreams and plans… We’re all human.
Peace out <3
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