Hey guys, got a question I’m hoping someone can help with.
I have the battery and ESC that come with the Backfire G3+ and I’m wondering if they would be compatible with the Revel direct drive motors they’re now selling separately. Any info would be appreciated…
Battery should be compatible, but there is only a tiny chance that the ESC is directly compatible
They should work with VESC though
Basically motor Kv isn’t the same between Backfire and Revel motors + voltage might be different.
IIRC Backfire uses 12s esc and battery, no idea what Revel is running but I was under the assumption that the ESC Revel uses is 10S?
Apart from voltage issues for low cut, motor can run but not at optimum power because Backfire esc won’t run motor detection.
unless the G3+ esc has the auto learn function, or else i expect it to work in unfavourable way, again there is also the sensorless way u can run
the G3+ ecs enclosure will have enough space for a unity if u ever plan to upgrade to a vesc, then u don’t need to worry about if esc works or not
Your G3+ battery is 12s2p 40t cells. Revel kits use 10s batteries. This should be fine, but your top speed will be faster than a regular Revel kit.
Like others have said, the ESC probably won’t play nice with the Revel drive.
You would want to buy a vesc that can handle 12s. @KaramQ has some focboxes for sale right now.
Thanks everyone. Thinking I’ll just grab another VESC at some point. Appreciate all the advice.
The price on these Revel drives is more than reasonable… think I’m gonna try and throw together some extra parts for a nice flexy DD build
Anybody who has used these drives able to comment on their performance/reliability?
In general Revel kits have a good reputation. My girlfriend has one and I don’t have anything bad to say about it. It’s quiet, has great freeroll, and it will make it up any hill.
Another easier, but less fun option, where you would be very limited in wheel selection - you could buy the backfire drive kit. Looks like it’s only $100. I don’t recommend that route, but it would get a working kit for less and be easier with what you currently own.
quite good, but don’t expect high torque until u vesc it up. they also have sort tiny wires, so probably just smol amps only
u can beat the shit out of it and they still run fine
also, not to detail the thread, but what y’all think is the best VESC on the market rn? stormcore? don’t really need the extra functionality from the spintend
sounds wonderful…
yeah I’ve actually already got the Backfire hubs on a loaded poke deck with the G3+ battery currently. they’re great, but I’d love to run some TB110s and not dealing with belts sounds nice
if u r planning to reuse the G3 enclosure, then u will have to pick 2x smol esc or anything that isn’t bigger than a unity volume.
unity is already a very tight fit in that space
Speaking of…you think they’d take the same amps as the meepo hubs? If i could run them at 30-35A per side when it’s warmer or 50A when it’s cold I’d might want to get a set.
i bet u can probably go 40~50a all day since its air cooled
gotcha… how big is the unity compared to the spintend? comparable? my spintend seems pretty beefy
unity is 117 * 68 *19
spintend is 130 * 83 * 27
no way spintend is gonna fit in there, not a chance even if u remove some material 
yeah haha def not. is it super complicated dealing w/ 2 ESC rather than a dual motor one? just programming individually? sorry for all the noob questions
not that complex, basically u just do same setting twice via canbus, one on each side.
u can wire them in canbus or split the receiver control going into 2 esc (2nd esc only require the singal wire(s))
no need to be sorry, this is what we r here for
u got a better pic of the underside of ur loaded poke? i’ve been thinking about that idea for a bit also
a quick search on the forum tells me I prob shouldn’t get a focbox tenka, huh? seems like they fry easy
what would you recommend I do for a VESC? unity is seeming like the most logical choice… stormcore/spintend too big
My gf’s revel kit is running TB110s 72a’s and I can confirm it is pure bliss
