I did not know it was a thing actually I will check it out. Thanks
Iām getting speed wobbles at 22mph and my remote shows 22mph and wonāt go any faster. I had an experienced rider try it out and he didnāt get speed wobbles so thats on me. But he can only get the 2WD kit up to 22mph indicated on the remote on 90mm 78A Ollin Popoca wheels.
I tried to do a top speed run again after lubricating the motor bearings according to advice on here. My remote still said 22mph but the ride app said I hit 25-26mph just before i fell off bcs of speed wobbles. Iāll try to work on my stance and other stuff before I try hitting top speed again. Also waiting on my adapters to put on 105 cloud wheels to see if that makes a difference in speed.
Also I am on Venom 91a bushings both front and rear. Iāll try replacing the rear bushings with some 100a bushings that came with my Meepo V3.
What deck are you riding on? Is the road smooth?
And yes, the rider makes a big difference if you get speed wobbles or not
Earthwing Muirderer 37" Deck. The roads are mostly smooth but I only try my top speed runs on the school running track which is super smooth bcs I kind of still am afraid to hit top speed on a street.
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So lots of information has been exchanged on Speed wobbles. Nice Exchange!!!
Here are my thoughts:
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Agree with @ShutterShock that Durometer should be up in the 90ās. I use 95a and Iām stable up to 52 kph. He is also correct that they need to be barrel bushings. Also, make sure they are longboard bushings. We did have one instance in this thread of a rider putting skateboard barrel bushings on a long board. Someone with sharp eyes spotted the problem. So, @sadabnyc & @Bandito Please post a picture of your set-up. It might make it easier for the rest of us to spot a mechanical problem if there is one.
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Never rely on the remote for an accurate speed. Instead use a cell phone ride tracking app like Map my ride. Aternativley, use a portable car GPS. Clear the max speed and then go for a ride. WHen you are done, check the max speed.
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Larger softer wheels will increase your potential for a Speed wobble.
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Oh yeah and also the Revel remote tracks slow haha I think you actually go a few mph faster than what the remote says
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4) If you put two different riders on the same board, one will have speed wobbles and the other may not. Not all riders are equal when it comes to riding at higher speed. It takes very strong calf muscles and the disciplin not to over react when steering and correcting. These strengths and skills take many months to develop, sometimes years. A rider who gets speed wobbles in the first month on a board, may discover that they can ride without speed wobbles six months later (exact same board). Part of it is calf muscle strength. Part of it is muscle memory and honing of reflexes.
I have no interest in diminishing the skills of any rider. Sometimes all it takes to elimnate a speed wobble is stiffer bushings. Other times, what is really needed is many months of building up strength and skill.
This is really important because we donāt want riders getting hurt un-necessarily.
Also, be careful when asking another rider to test out your board. A 52 kph board for one rider is a 20 kph accident for another.
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5) Not everyone thinks a speed wobble is the same thing. A speed wobble is a violent side to side oscilation that sends most riders on to the ground. It is very difficult to regain control from a true speed wobble.
Some riders experience vibration and think its a speed wobble. Its happened a few times in this thread that someone complains of a speed wobble and dozens of exchanges later, we realize that they are experiencing noise and vibration from under lubricated bearings.
If you are riding along and you briefly loose control and recover, itās debatable whether or not that is actually a speed wobble. It might just be a sign that your leg muscles are not yet up to the challenge.
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Here are a few youtube skateboard speed wobble videos.
I would argue that none of them are due to the board set-up. Either the rider is traveling at a completely unreasonable speed or the rider is riding beyond their level of skill and knowledge. The absense of helmets is a good indicator of inexperience.
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Does you school track have a rubber surface. Those track surfaces are highly prone to real speed wobbles. There is too much traction so you get alot of oversteering. I saw a youtube video of this happen on a rubber track. I canāt find it right now, but I recall the rider (with no helmet) was in a coma for weeks.
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not following the thread much these days, but as for speed wobbles, put on HARD bushing in the back (canāt change the truck angles in this system or Iād tell your to decrease that angle). Doing this basically means it will take you longer before you get the wobbles since skills are also needed to prevent it.
It may be your weight distribution or riding style that gives the wobbles. Loosen up your knees and put your weight in the front vs the back, especially when turning or carving, donāt go too fast on unfamiliar roads and always pay attention to what the road condition is directly in front of you because sudden change in level can cause you to wobble even in slower speeds.
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Itās not my stance. Weather I am going uphill, downhill or on really smooth really flat surfaces it always happens at the same speed no matter my stance or weight distribution. My friend also tried my setup and had the same issues. We are both experienced riders. He also weighs a lot less than I do.
The difference between downhill longboarding and eskate is that eksate has breaks you can gently apply and the wobble (for me) goes away at 36kmh but if I go back up to 37kmh and keep it there it will start to wobble and if I go faster then more wobble. On a really smooth and straight long rip I should be able to hit at least 45kmh NP.
On a side note (as ShutterShock mentioned) I also notice that the revel remote shows slightly slower speed than what you are actually doing probably 5KM/H slower than actual speed difference. So when I say wobbles happen at 37km/h I mean thatās what is showing on the remote.
After all this feedback I am pretty confident that itās an issue with too soft of a bushing duro. As ShutterShock suggested to get some harder bushings so that is the next step for me. I ended up ordering some Riptides 95a barrel bushings and also a 95a pivot cup. When I get em next week I will post the test results and top speed.
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I run those on most of my boards since I throw out the stock one most of the time. they are great.
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oh wow I wasnāt aware of that. I think its probably something like rubber. Iāll avoid it if thats the case. Thanks for all the info!
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My Pleasure. Your top speed would also be relativley low on a rubber track. Iām not saying you should go faster. Just that any eskate would have a much faster top speed on pavement instead of a rubber track. So if your two complaints are slow top speed and wobbly ride, then the rubber track would explain both. You should still lubricate your bearings frequently. Its a good habit.
Also, I just found the video that showed the loss of control and crash on the rubber track
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Iāve actually used an air duster first to get everything clear of debris not the best way but it did the job.
My mistake Iāve actually used more like ~10ml of lubricant per DD for a total under 50ml.
I definitely like your idea of using Isopropyl alcohol 
@pkasanda Do you know of any lubricant thicker than speed cream, that DDās could stay lubricated longer ?
Alcohol could be a really bad idea. Alcohol destroyās most plastics. The bearing seals are plastic. So the alcohol may get them clean but afterwards the plastic seals could be far less effective at keeping grease in or dust out. Some thin penetrating lubricants may contain alcohol.
The most frictionless lubrication method that Iāve tried for the wheel bearings is to remove/clean the bearings with a toothbrush, and then soak them in synthetic motor oil.
I demonstrate this technique with olive oil in this video using a manual skateboard.
Obviously I used Olive Oil because nothing else was available while on vacation. But the drop in friction was spectacular. Synthetic Motor oil had the same effect. Synthetic motor oil is an educated guess. I figure if it does not damage the bearing seals in an engine, it should be fine for skateboard wheels.
Who knows. Maybe speed cream is botteling synthetic motor oil.
I canāt think of a more effective way to clean the exterior of the motor bearings prior to lubricaitng.
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Today I got an email saying the 105D cloudwheels I bought was delivered as well as the shop app saying the same thing. Unfortunately no package was delivered and I had to start a claim with UPS. Very frustrating as I donāt think anyone would of stolen the package so I donāt know how things got screwed up.