I don’t think it’s safe to ride a thane board in any sort of wet condition. I’ve (accidentally) tried.
I did it several times in the last week alone, and that’s discounting the last 5 years. It might be a skill issue. If you have trouble, I would try to avoid it.
I don’t have trouble, I just have no brakes
It helps to have some sort of tread or grooves, and ride more slowly. My Shark Wheels have worked well in the rain.
I was waiting for this topic to pop up.
I think people are underestimating the range that RKPs can deliver.
Not with that attitude.
Does anyone know what ESC this is using? It says
A non-HobbyWing, non-LingYi, Field-Oriented-Control ESC, with proven track record for reliability and is being used by numerous other brands.
Is there another common ESC I’m not aware of? I doubt it’s using something Vesc-based, but those are the only options I’m really aware of.
Lot of fellating the hardware in this thread. Not a lot of discussion about this being a brand new company offering a big pre-order discount, with zero proven track record, an influencer’s name slapped on it, a founder with no esk8 experience and a bio that reads like a self-important dropshipper, and zero mention of the actual manufacturer.
What happened to this community’s healthy skepticism?
My favorite rkp are the exway trist ones, they feel beautiful out of the box with great stability and carviness
Are you talking about the same ones that my x1 max came with? Cause the trists on the x1 max feel pretty bad in my opinion with little range, especially out of the box. I much prefer caliber iii raked over them or even better are the og cast ronins, those are next level with close to as much range as my Dualities, which is pretty much impossible to max out on urethane.
Hi all. Thank you @JRP3 for sharing the Aero Pro on here. Regarding TKP over RKP for the Aero…
The Aero has a relatively short wheelbase which makes the ride more nimble and carvy than on longer boards with RKP. And I just have a personal preference for RKP.
Strength and reliability was also a big factor, as we’ve opted to use the largest available pivot pin design (18mm) plus a really strong mechanical design on the hangers, which would be more difficult to achieve on a TKP setup.
We have a video of the trucks surviving 13,500 newtons that only bent it, no cracks whatsoever. They only started to visibly deform at 12,000 newtons. Will upload to our Instagram later today.
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Regarding speed…
@Poastoast and @JRP3 are right. Speed is not the purpose of this board, but can be easily achieved if needed by simple wheel/pulley change. We made the Aero Pro for commuting and to be beginner friendly. Not every board should be about speed.
With that said, our 220 lb tester has had his board set up with 28T wheel pulleys and 90mm wheels, giving him around 60 km/h top speed (which was benefited by the stability from the RKP trucks).
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Regarding warranty for water damage…
I don’t think any brands cover water damage. The Aero is designed with water resistance in mind, but to cover all damages would be tough. Also, we don’t want our customers injuring themselves from riding on slippery surfaces. I personally avoid riding in the wet, and slow down a lot if I have to.
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Regarding the ESC…
It’s the one used by Acedeck and Onsra, among others. It’s a proven ESC with good track record. The adjustability is the right amount, not too complicated like VESC-based ESCs that could fry up with one number accidentally changed. Should be suitable for the vast majority of riders.
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Regarding 1P…
We chose P45Bs so that we could use 1P, no other cell would do. Samsung 30Ts are constantly out of stock and will deliver poor range, P50Bs are only somewhat available and mostly cells rejected by big companies, tabless cells need more testing…
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Regarding healthy skepticism…
Nice to meet you too Benjamin! We’re shipping next month. I think I have some esk8 experience. Not sure what you meant by “actual manufacturer”. We designed a board based on my requirements, sourced parts, built and tested prototypes, assembled a batch of them, etc, and are shipping them soon. Not a rebrand or OEM board if that’s what you meant.
—Daniel
Good to see you here, hopefully the riff-raff don’t scare you off.
It looks like a well-considered board and I wish you the best of luck with it. One of my favourite boards ever was my exway x1, for the fact that it was small, light and reasonably powerful. This looks like it ticks all of those boxes as well
I am digging this board. Looks cool, I like the specs for what it is. Hope it does well. Esk8 in general needs more wins.
JKescs if someone wanted a name. It’s also what is in the MLR and the upcoming WTF from Stooge if that helps.
Also, nice to see you on here DKwan.
It looks like the phrase “healthy skepticism” is being misunderstood here.
What Benjamin is asking for, is entirely fair. We’re all familiar with Daniel Kwan the YouTuber. We’re familiar more or less, with the expanding and contracting amount of labels/brands of devices that exist in the market.
Far as the viewers know, Daniel Kwan doesn’t have his own factory to produce electric skateboards with, and most of the people on this forum are DIY types with some kind of understanding of there being a select group of factories that produce these kinds of products, and in some cases, label them for brands.
If that’s not the case here, and you have started your own company, opened a factory, or otherwise started up a manufacturing venture, then that would definitely be different than what folks may expect.
The reason I say all that is because there really only are/were 2 other YouTuber eskate ventures, and one of them went so absurdly bad in the most ethically insulting way. Combine that with the last couple of years carrying a growing trend of consumers becoming tired with influencer marketing in general, and fewer buyers being content to be sold something and then when it doesn’t work out how they were told, having to just eat it without the influencers bearing any kind of responsibility.
This hobby has been in a perpetual race to the bottom, with cheaper parts, worser assembly practices, vanishing “warranty” promises, and more and more bets being hedged in marketing just to get more units out the door.
Being an influencer/YouTuber puts you in a unique place in both good and bad ways. It allows you to handle and observe more product than most users ever will. However it also puts you in a blind spot to support problems that most users will run into.
It still happens to me. Since I have an audience, vendors treat me better. I get told by my own clients that they get ghosted by customer support, in cases where I would get immediate replies. It’s just how it is.
To circle back, it’s these kinds of things that may (and certainly do for some folks) lead one to look at a new venture like this, with skepticism.
There are only so many times a person can be misled with their spending before they just don’t want to waste their time anymore. And I don’t think it’s unreasonable to feel that way.
To be VERY clear, I’m not levying crticism of your content or your brand. Your channel is literally, the only eskate channel I’m still subscribed to (mostly out of nostaligia). I think you make a good video product.
No one here knows who “we” is. “We” is used by single person entities all the time to sound more substantive. And in a hobby where the majority of marketing language, product copy, spec sheets, and social media marketing is a big steaming pile of horse shit, I think people like Benjamin are just…curious. And have a healthy skepticism of things that if made poorly, can burst into unextinguishable flames in their home.
Both Benjamin and I have extensive professional experience with things like that, and so we take things seriously. With a healthy dose of skepticism. We wish all companies did, but in practice, most don’t.
Well thanks for your eloquent explanation and for staying subscribed!
I’ve been stopping just fine for years, so it may be a skill issue. I would highly recommend that you personally use treaded pneumatic tires for a while.
Yeah, what this guy said
No, the ones on the Flex pro and Flex 2 Pro, they’re awesome. And some of the best stock bushings on any board imo