Damn that’s gotta be at least 1500n of torque
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if you wanna use drag race cars as example
why not add the lil drag wheels in the back instead
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I haven’t even looked at any of this in detail, but the way I see it, the further forward that the counterweight is, the less it would need to weigh for it to be effective.
So holding it forward in your hand would require less weight for the same effect?
I think if trying not to flip over weight more forward makes sense, but flipping over doesn’t happen on a skateboard and just spinning out does
Lower and forward is even better
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Are you hitting 1/2 g?
Bindings and grippy wheels easily lift front wheels 
Looking at people go for max acceleration I see them leaning forward enough to keep the nose down. Assuming you’re leaning as far forward as possible, you’d maybe almost end up horizontal and I think the wheels will spin out before the nose would come up.
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Exactly. So if you keep your body weight back to keep traction, the water bottle forward would assist with keeping the nose down.
@poastoast whats the limitation? You can’t get enough mass forward and the nose comes up or the driving wheel slips? Or u need more torque to know?
With my 9x3.5 slicks, no matter how much I lean forward, I just cannot loose grip on the rear end. I am at 0.7G RWD right now but there is still room for improvement. For that I need more torque though
However, if I don’t lean forward enough because for example I accelerate out of a corner and I only focus on the line, then the front can definitely come up. I had it happen a handful of times on the track
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Holy shit i just read this whole thread. I’m out of town for a week and this is what i miss lmao
Yep, it makes leaning into acceleration automatic so you don’t have to learn it. I never did, in fact. Ask @2swiftmo about me falling off their boards lol.
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what’s the what?
I barely beat your Gs 
i was 2% more Gs and you were 6% faster.
no trouble with wheels up.
no trouble with grip.
i wasn’t at max lean.
also was on 2wd. those on 4wd keep front down to get full acceleration.
yes, lean too far foward and you’ll get rear slip, lean too far back and you’ll get a wheelie.
but i suspect none of our boards have so much thrust that there’s not a balance point in between still.
Ie none of us need an extra cantelevered water bottle yet.
and no, no one noticed that effect, because no one is anywhere near where it is an effect.
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BuT hOw CoUlD yOu KnOcK iT bEfOrE yOu TrY iT?!
I have traveled with a water bottle. I did not notice the effect.
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bater wottle
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Fair enough, I first noticed the effect on my board that doesn’t have a motor on which I can’t stay leaned that far forward while kicking up hill, for example.
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