I bought some batteries second hand and I want some opinions on them

So I bought 5 of these 10s2p huger tech pre production batteries today from a guy who was moving and had a bunch of stuff he wanted to get rid of for cheap. I payed $140 for the 5 of them so i think I got a pretty good deal. I’ve opened one of them up and took some pictures of them so hopefully you guys can tell me if these packs are ticking time bombs or decent quality. I looked online at what the cells where and they’re lgdamf11865 according to what I’ve found they’re 2.15 Ah and 20 amp discharge but i couldn’t find if mooch or some reliable 3rd party had tested them. I also wonder if I can pull the full 20 amps per cell without the bms tripping because of the current?


TLDR:
Are these packs well built?
Does anyone know if the bms is wired for charge and discharge or just charge?
Does someone know of a reliable spec sheet for these cells?

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They are wired for discharge through the BMS, but…

Its hard to say whether they are well built or not as we can’t see how the cells are connected…

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Not that I know much about battery pack assembaly, but. Can you get pics of the welds?

Bypassing the BMS discharge should be easy enough… And the inclusion of that isolating compound inspires a small amount of confidence in me.

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Yes I saw that too… but I’ve seen some pretty horrific welds/shitty nickel behind those strips :sweat_smile:

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It actually looks like that thing in the middle is a pcb… with the nickel attached to the cells from it somehow…

Here are some more pictures just let me know if there are other areas of the battery you guys want to see.

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I would check the internal resistance of the P groups at least, the charge capacity, and if the groups are balanced…Also the way that the package it is build…it is not possible to give you an answer in such things…you have to find them your self

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The nickel looks good, the welds look reasonably good too.

Definitely curious to see how those batteries are joined in the middle though, and how the wires are connected to the cells

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I’m guessing the black mark is a sharpie marker made by an inspector? Maybe?

The white insulating compound is reassuring.

Look for identify numbers/letters on bms pcb and google them if you can if you would like to know the discharge current. But really, just bypass it.

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It’s really hard to get a good picture because if I lift one side there’s a wire that restricts the movement but I tried. The center welds all look the same as the outside ones in terms of quality and the pack is connected in the center by a piece of nickel that bends and goes around a little plastic divider piece that divides the two sides of the pack. And @Arzamenable those marks are just sharpie not burn marks.


Those middle two pictures are where the wires connect to the cells.

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I think the pack looks quite well constructed compared to the cheap ones I have pulled out of budget boards :+1:

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Yeah this is what I was thinking too. Probably marks them and checks the welds. A good sign imo, the pack looks pretty well built

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Hmmm, I don’t even remember where the hell these came from. :thinking:

Edit: these came from power banks off amazon that were more or lease dead or out of balance beyond the pcb’s range to care.

If you hunt around for lgXXXXXX1865 oem teal cells, you might find some stuff.

I wouldn’t trust these for 20a continuous. (40a a 2p pack).

I could be wrong but I am pretty sure at one point meepo offered an LG pack with their boards I bough the that pack and opened it later on it was payed out exactly the same and had the same divider in the middle with nickel strips bent around it

The one thing is that hose cells sag tons and you would have to bypass the bms

Hope all goes well

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a single thin nickel strip to connect the positive and negative terminal??
Yeah, I wouldn’t bypass the BMS at all. If the BMS is 20a, its probably safe to run it at 20a

I found similar at Nkon and Lygte:

Same LGGBF1L1865 at Nkon
https://eu.nkon.nl/rechargeable/li-ion/18650-size/lg-inr18650-f1l-3350mah-4-8a.html

But LGABF1L1865 at Lygte:
https://lygte-info.dk/review/batteries2012/LG%2018650%20F1L%203350mAh%20(Purple)%20UK.html

Don’t know the difference but seems like a 5A cell. I would not load it 10A even at short bursts.
3350ah (about 11.4wh) tho so good capacity.