FW 5.3 is out! Vesc Tool 3.01

Ya this is what I’m talking about as well! :laughing:

I tried to present evidence that the VX1 receiver keeps sending 0% throttle command when the remote has lost connection with the receiver.

And to be sure it actually is the VX1 receiver sending 0% throttle, I disconnected the receiver (as a test) to see that now the APP real time data is frozen and no input is received.

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sorry ,if my english is bad when i try to explain , i am french from montreal so its bit difficult for me ,
with ackmaniac software i was able the use this kind of feature, but now with my new spintend vesc and uni remote v2 i can’t get the brake time out current working and and if a free roll happen at 40mph is not good when you need to slow down!

there a ppm option on this remote but still not get brake time out current working

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i know all of that sorry

0% throttle is the center of the dead-band, though right? sending essentially no throttle isn’t a bad behavior. have you seen it send enough throttle to make the board do something bad?

sorry if it seems like I’m picking at it. it just seems to me like this is basic good behavior and I can’t imagine a remote, that is being produced now, doing dumb shit like looping a positive throttle signal when the remote disconnects. if it’s receiving nothing from the remote, it should send nothing to the ESC.

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I’ve had this with the mini remote on multiple occasions due to bad soldering in a case mod job.

It usually happens because the remote remains powered and transmitting when the signal is electronically disconnected.

Yes 0% as in middle position. Have not seen anything else than 0.

I agree, but if someone would like to have use of the “Timeout brake Current” setting (like @celica40), then the receiver would have to shut up completely (not send 0%). Otherwise, as trampa said above

:handshake:

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i have run one last motor detection before test drive my board but i got almost 3,4 A between the motors and even if try several time can it cause a problem while riding?

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This is fine.
Motors are unique

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This is a different thing. He’s talking about when the receiver loses radio connection to the transmitter, the receiver continues sending data.

The mini remote has a failsafe setting that is sent in this case. Typically for esk8 you’d set it to 0%

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3.4A difference for a rather cheap, mashine wound motor is ok, but look at the inductance Lq-Ld.
That is off by a lot. Looks like one motor is quite far away from the other. 3.23 vs 4.58uH
You could try and swap the motor phase wires from one esc to the other. This way you can see if your esc or motor is producing the difference.
It’s probably still ok, but the motors have quite a substancial tollerance.

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Is there a guide to tuning VSS? Also how well will it work with a Unity and hubs vs HFI?

I set up a motor without sensors and I noticed a very quiet beep on motor start when I set it up with sensorless FOC, I think that’s VSS

That’s what I have too using default VSS settings, any tuning you did?

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none, seems to “just work”

eat your heart out HFI

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Went for a ride and daaamn it’s quiet, a bit jittery on starts but much better than sensorless

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that was my impression too, made me seriously reconsider my whole fight with sensor wires and sensor plugs

Sensors definitely start up faster than HFI and VSS, I think HFI is faster than VSS but it screams at you

For ‘race’ style boards I think sensors are a must for that launch, for off road I think HFI is good because fast and less wires and the noise is fine, and for street boards VSS is a good balance

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I wanna say for “urban boards” would be VSS’ use case. Not just Thane builds but pneumies builds too, anything but DKP would be fine with the startup jitter.

That said I do like a fast startup when riding on city streets. There’s too many times where you have to jet forward a bit to get out of harm’s way.

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On this one I neither have the space for a stable stance nor sensors if I wanted so absolutely gonna stick with VSS, but in the cases where I can run sensors I probably will

Has someone tried installing the VESC tool on Mac M1 using Rosetta?

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