Forget the grip use Glass Frit

Briman · February 24, 2020, 2:05pm

I have never done any hydro dipping but have had similar experiences with watercolor paint.

What kind of clear coat spray or brush on? No doubt the hydro dip comes off with 50-100 grit that is very coarse for delicate work and will quickly cut through a thin clear coat. I would try super fine like 800 grit up. I use automotive sand paper and I don’t wet sand it unless I need to take a lot off. I would only do very light sanding just enough to put light scuffs in the clear. They don’t need to be extremely visable even if it is enough to show some light dust on the sand paper will at least give the spar or epoxy to hold on to.

hans_maier · February 24, 2020, 4:33pm

Up to now I always used a spray for the clear coat (see cans below)

I am also beginner in hydro dipping, basically just tried dipping my helmet and two enclosures for my first build with somewhat mixed results (enclosures depicted below)

If I understood correctly you think it should be enough to use very fine sand paper like 800 to just slightly roughen up the clear coat layer in order for the epoxy or spar to stick or hold on to?

bwahl602 · February 24, 2020, 4:39pm

Wanna share more of this?

hans_maier · February 24, 2020, 4:42pm

Sure, however, that is all I got at the moment. Still puzzling.

Sender · February 24, 2020, 4:44pm

On that I would use like 600 super light sand. Hardly any pressure and use a 2k clearcoat.

hans_maier · February 24, 2020, 4:46pm

Do you think applying the clear coat with a brush would be better, since it would be thicker than if it is simply sprayed?

Sender · February 24, 2020, 5:10pm

No. I would do multiple coats of the 2k for build up.

Briman · February 24, 2020, 5:28pm

When I do water color on my boards I do about 5 coats of this

then sand with ultra fine grit with very little pressure like @Sender said. Then 2 coats of spar on top to seal everything in.

hans_maier · February 24, 2020, 5:51pm

… and then start with glass friting procedure?

I already ordered some epoxy, should I also do the 2 coats of spar before starting or directly use the epoxy instead?

hans_maier · February 24, 2020, 5:53pm

The more the better? How many is “multiple” (sorry for being such a pain ;-)) - 3, 5, or 10?

bwahl602 · February 24, 2020, 6:04pm

What @sender said. Always multiple thin coats over a thick one

Briman · February 24, 2020, 7:28pm

nope the spar is used in place of the epoxy and vise versa depending on what you have on hand and how quick you need to do boards. I use Spar just like @longhairedboy because when I’m doing a board I want to be able to do a few coats a day where Epoxy takes longer to dry.

kadeanderson · March 20, 2020, 5:53am

how do you apply fabric on a deck?

Sender · March 20, 2020, 6:49am

Patience and epoxy.

Briman · March 20, 2020, 1:09pm

You must also have a lushes beard. It intimidates the fabric into laying flat. Why do you think @Sender hasnt shaved his off.

bwahl602 · March 20, 2020, 1:22pm

I’m planning to do a skin soon. Growing mine out in preparation

Turbo · March 29, 2020, 9:42am

Thanks for the tutorial! Been riding with no grip for the past few months in anticipation of the moment I’d have enough time for this.

I got so used to riding without grip, and it looked so good, I now regret adding the frit.

Oh well. Can’t wait for it to dry.

EreTroN · April 24, 2020, 2:06pm

Any tips for preparing hummie deck since it has shiny carbon top layer. How it should be prepared for glass frit?

Thanks

Briman · April 24, 2020, 2:08pm

It will have a layer of epoxy on it so that the carbon fiber wets out and adheres to the wood. I would wet sand it lightly with 220 wet/dry paper

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/?N=5002385+3290820798&rt=rud

Gerrycorrado · April 24, 2020, 2:10pm

Oh thats sad indeed! Looked so good naked!