FlexiBMS Lite - Flexible Configuration BMS w/ CAN-bus

Jesus christ…

I’m looking at my living room (more like workroom) and just thinking of removing one table and building the pick-n-place machine in it’s place… Need to build the solder paste stencil jig… Reflow oven is usable already… Then just the production tester…

EDIT: I’m thinking of buying a Liteplacer open source pnp machine. The guy who sells the kits, lives about 20 minutes away, so support isn’t too far away.
https://www.liteplacer.com/introduction-f-a-q/

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Needs a couple more iterations, but it’s a good proof of concept for the testing jig for the charger and battery pad connections.

I’ll edit this post to add the later iterations once I finish it.

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Do you use spring loaded pins for the connection ?
I’d interested to see how you managed to make it. :+1:

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I was originally planning on wrapping a couple layers of copper tape on the contact surface and then soldering wires onto the tape, but looks like I have none on hand at the moment, so I just twisted some multi-strand hook-up cable around the clamps. Should give a pretty good contact even on a slightly un-even surface. I’ll test it today.


EDIT: Works well. No problems with the contact resistance even at 10 Amps.

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Is there any way of including a fuse on the charge input (instead of using a inline fuse) looks as tho there might be space but proberly is not.

You can simply put a fuse on your charge wire. Here’s what I have:

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I suppose the 5 mOhm current measuring shunt will burn/blow away if there is a large spike, cutting the battery pack’s negative terminal.

Seems more like a fault than a feature ( i know thats not the intention of the shunt though).
@Darkie02, why not use a cleaner external solution? Something like @janpom pointed out above, or if space is not an issue, a personal favorite of mine-

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That’s what I do use but why not integrate it in to the bms? Why are we still adding a cable between another component? Is the only argument because we always have done it that way? Or is there a legitimate reason some one would not want a fuse on the charge when use it this bms?

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Because it’s easier to replace when it does blow. I’m for keeping it separate/modular so that pieces can be swapped out

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I’m using pogo pins from SparkFun to build the “bed-of-nails” production tester jig.

https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9174 https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9174


Also I got some feedback from the tester group about the charger and battery connection solder pad sizes and their clearance to the mounting holes, so I made a minor HW revision of 0.5-1 with these things corrected, I anyways needed to do another PCB order to get the solder paste stencil for the board, so I can order the new PCBs in the same lot.

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So what changed for it to be now viable alteration?

Testers brought up the clearance between the mounting holes (bolt heads) and solder pads. I decided to enlarge the mounting hole pad sizes and increase the area around them a little bit and needed to move the solder pads at that point anyway, so I updated their location and sizes at the same time.

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Well I done did ordered the PnP machine kit.

I’m building a new pack for my everyday riding. I’m stepping up to a bigger enclosure, but not into the mega-pack I’ll be building in the summer. I’ve been using these Pelican-style carrying cases (SE/Seahorse-series from Serpac), as they are nice and rugged + they are water & airtight (as long as I seal my connector holes properly).

Here are my current enclosures, with my current pack (smallest) being on top. My new intermediate pack in the orange/red in the middle and then the mega-pack at the bottom.

Top: SE120, 10S6P 35E, ~700 Wh
Middle: SE300, 12S7P 50E, ~1450 Wh
Bottom: SE520, 12S36P 35E, ~5000+ Wh




I’m ordering the 0.5-1 boards today, alongside a couple other boards and a stencil for the BMS. Depending on how things flow time-wise, I might try to do the assembling of the next tester batch with the PnP depending on how much tinkering I need to do to first build it, configure, calibrate and learn to workflow on it.

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Let me know when it becomes available and I’ll be keen to send some dollars through

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Same here. Battery is waiting :frowning: but excited

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@SimosMCmuffinn where did you get those enclosures? Thanks

I buy mine from Digi-key.

https://www.digikey.com/products/en/boxes-enclosures-racks/boxes/594?k=&pkeyword=&sv=0&s=38357&sf=0&FV=-8|594%2C1989|0&quantity=&ColumnSort=0&page=1&stock=1&pageSize=25

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Looks like this BMS would fit between the cell blocks of my onewheel battery and report cell voltages over can - exactly what I need! When there’s a chance for a fellow Finn to get one, count me in :grin:

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Quick update.

Got the LitePlacer kit yesterday, have the frame mostly assembled at this point. Gonna back out the bolts a little bit, true the chassis, re-tighten and bolt it to the table today.




Also got the 0.5-1 PCBs and the stencil for them. Need to build a jig for this at some point and practice using it.

Have wired and been testing the practical test battery for the production tester.

Got my new 21700-50E cells for my new pack.


Built a couple more of the 350W PSUs

Found an accounting firm finally and gave them a call. I’ll be going over to their office at the end of this week or start of next week to put in my LLC company forms and talk about bookkeeping.

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