Evolve Wheel Pulley vs Torqueboards Wheel Pulley (Bonus: Wheel Colors)

Evolve Wheel Pulley vs Torqueboards Wheel Pulley (Bonus: Wheel Colors)

by jvu2000

2020-07-26T07:17:00Z

Introductions

Before I begin this post, I just want to go ahead and mention that this is my subjective review to look at the facts of the design and build quality of these manufacturers’ wheel pulleys - I absolutely mean no disrespect to the respective name brands (There’s a reason why these guys have made themselves a name in the eSk8 community to begin with so my due respect to that).

So this is rather a continuation of a previous post of my eSk8 build. I posted the following in a build log posted in the forum a few weeks ago:

So today, I am out to test these pulleys and see how well built they are… But before I begin, I need to address a burning issue first - wheel colors. Ever since I posted the build, there was a user by the name of @RedBaron (Not sure if you like the frozen pizza company, or you admire one of the best pilots of World War I based on your username, LOL) who wrote the following:

“Hate the blue color wheels” huh??? Well, I was very curious. I got my sister an eSk8 board, and I got her the black wheels, and all of that sparked the question, “What if my wheels weren’t blue? What if they were black?”


RedBaron sucked me into getting a set of black wheels. My wheels are no longer blue, but they are black. HOLY BATMAN! They look nice! To be fair, I think that both wheel colors look nice. The blue has a fashion statement built into them. When riding during the day, and the sunlight hits it, it just glows. But on the other hand, the black wheels scream stealth. It kinda resembles a race car to me, but man, it really does look stealthy. The really cool thing about them is that under certain lighting conditions, they look like rubber slick tires. In either case, I really like both of them. Oh, the 72A is a touch softer. Squeezing the 74A and the 72A, there’s a difference. And maybe it’s all in my head, but 72A is smoother on the road for me too.

Evolve Wheel Pulley

Okay, onto talking about the wheel pulleys. Let’s start with the Evolve pulleys first. First of all, they are made of some sort of tough plastic. As tough as they are, they will break. As evident below. Now these are brand spanking new from the Evolve factory here in America. I emailed the company, and they were super apologetic and sent me a new set no question asked. Maybe it was a defect from the manufacturing process. I don’t know. All I know is that they are broken. Could these pulleys work though? IMHO, most absolutely! Ten stems and missing one? No big deal, the load is still distributed equally around the wheel. What about the right side one with the chip in it? It was “sharp,” but just to experiment with it, I used a fine file to smooth it out, popped it on the axle and wrapped the belt around it. Ran it for a minute fast and slow, and from what I can tell, if this was to stay on permanently, I would be very comfortable and confident with it not tearing through my belt.

Here’s where I think that the Evolve pulley has an advantage over the Torqueboards, Evolve’s pulleys have a ball bearing in it. I think having one plus the two in the wheels will help distribute the torsional load caused by the belt from the two main ball bearings on the wheel.

(Left = Evolve Pulley; Right = Torqueboards)


Torqueboards Wheel Pulley

If you have been astute to my description of the Evolve pulley, you would have probably already guessed the build material of the Torqueboards pulley. It’s metal; all metal! I think this may be the last pulley that I will ever buy. When I opened up the package, I was like “DAYUM, this thing is well built!”

The stems on the underside of the pulley attaches to the wheel, however, unlike the friction fit of the Evolve’s, these pulleys attach by five screws. If you notice there are no nuts to which the screws bolt into. These screws bolt directly into the pulley itself. The use of blue loctite is advised (anything that interfaces metal-to-metal) so that you don’t find yourself missing a wheel(s) while cruising at 25 mph on the road.

You can actually see the threading on the pulley:

Gear Ratios (what works for me…)

Both of these manufacturers offer a selection (more than one) of pulleys. With Evolve, they offer two options: 32T and 38T in both Kegel and ABEC style wheels; Torqueboards offering has 36T, 40T, and 44T in both Kegel and ABEC also.

My motor pulley is currently geared at 16T and the Evolve wheel pulley at 38T which results in a drive ratio of 2.375:1 (A gear ratio of 2.375:1 means that when the motor pulley turns 2.375 times, the wheel pulley turns once = 38T divided by 16T = 2.375).

If you want the concept explained, YouTube or Google “gear ratios explained.”

If you use Torqueboards’ pulleys at 36T, just use a 15T motor pulley. That combination results in a gear ratio of 2.4:1 (A gear ratio of 2.4:1 means that when the motor pulley turns 2.4 times, the wheel pulley turns once = 36T divided by 15T = 2.4). You’re not going to be able to tell the difference between 2.375 vs 2.4.

(Left = Torqueboards; Right = Evolve Pulley)

Conclusions

To revisit the statement from the beginning… that you should use Evolve’s pulleys on the “Ownboard Double Kingpin Trucks” is not accurate. I am not sure about other pulleys (MBoards, Boundmotor, etc), but Torqueboards work fine on DKP trucks.

For me, my vote goes to Torqueboards’ pulleys. Super rigid and all metal! With that being said, Evolve can hold its own too. I am actually currently running the Evolve pulleys on my board.

(Left = Torqueboards; Right = Evolve Pulley)

(Top = Torqueboards; Bottom = Evolve Pulley)

Cheers! Happy gearing and pulleying…

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fucking sweet science… gawd damn you now I’m forced to go compare tooth desgn vs. OD

when will it stop???

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Are you still able to use the tb belts with the evolve sprocket. Also my tb pulley expanded my wheels hubs when i tighten down the bolts have you experienced this and lastly ive gotten alot of vibration cause of having to tighten down the tb pulley so it’s not completely balanced, does the evolve wheel pulley do that as well?

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Could you make a video showing this?

You may be interested in reviewing some of my new pulleys coming soon…
Got a 44T coming soon for those big wheels, (and the TB130)

:smiley:

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If your talking to me I can take some videos, my baring are lose in the housing now since it expended. And i have a vidration on it as well but i tighten the shit down and put gel super glue and made it as even as possible but definitely still a wobble.

gimmie

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Me too…

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@boardnamics what u mean… you can only buy 130s with pulleys. :laughing: :rofl: :joy:

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@RichardsGore Not sure if this helps, but I am not using Torqueboards belts. I am using the original belts that I got from the guys at Propulsion Boards (which of course they have to source it from somewhere… and that somewhere is printed on the belt as shown in the picture). And I would imagine the same for the Torqueboards belts - a quality belt is a quality belt. Assuming the specs of your belts are correct too…

The specs of the belt that I am using is a 270mm (circumference); 5mm pitch (distance between each tooth); and 15mm width.

Torqueboards Pulley:

Evolve Pulley:

Next question is, how tight are you tightening down the screws to attach the plate to the pulley? I am no expert, but there is no need for a death grip tight. “Tight enough” (firm) with one drop of blue loctite is enough. IMHO, if you are expanding your wheel hubs when you are tightening down the screws, that’s too tight!

As far as the balancing goes, here is my experience, I don’t think that the wheels themselves are balanced and trued. In other words, I get a very slight wobble of the wheel. (I only have one set of Torqueboards pulleys and they seem to be very balanced…)

The following video is the one wheel that isn’t balanced. The other wheel is very balanced.

Here is

https://shop.polybelt.com/270-5m-15-Rubber-Timing-Belt-54-Tooth-B270-5M-15BNG.htm?categoryId=-1

Very nice !
I think there is also a big difference in term of clearance towards how the pulley can go over the truck hanger. Evolve one seems to be blocked by the bearing while TB is open in it’s design and can fit any truck easily I guess.

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The black is super sexy. Noice.

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Ahhha! That is an awesome point. I ll have to keep that in mind.

Im not using the tb belts anymore cause they started to lose strands right away, ive loosened them up a bit and that seens to help. Ask ive road more with it the wobble has went away a bit so the wheels my have worn down enough to make it smooth.

If I buy the 44T pulleys does it come with 2? Or do I need to buy 2 orders

It’s for a set of 2.

Amazing, one last question. Is it compatible for the “Evolve GTR/Verreal RS/Ownboard AT” type of boards?

Yes it is :smile:

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Ownboard use 3M pulleys on most of their belt drive boards.

Does a 6900 bearing fit in the TB pulleys? Or any other bearing with an inner diameter of 10mm?