@anorak234 Nice article, especially for those who weren’t around for the whole rise and fall of the Enpire. And while I agree that the Raptor hubs were probably the biggest issue, I’d like to see some mention of the early Unity firmware issues that injured some people, created some bad press & fear, and ultimately led to charge backs because of the next thing…the bullshit 20% “restocking fee” for things that most times weren’t ever “in stock” or delivered in a timely manner leading to frequent charge backs which should have just been simple refunds when enertion failed to deliver. IIRC, I think it was edit: @Lee_Wright who relayed Jason’s comments about a slew of Unity charge backs (~$60k) when early firmware issues arose, that Enertion was never able to recover from, although I don’t know how much truth there is to this, since Jason supposedly said it. But I’m pretty sure that most charge backs could have potentially been simpler refunds, but people didn’t want to pay 20% fees to restock products that probably didn’t even exist at the time. I wonder if Enertion could have survived the Raptor/hub issues if the other things hadn’t happened, but we’ll never know.
That’s a hard no bud. Jason is a fucking idiot and couldn’t survive with any type of competition around. It only takes a few minutes talking with him to know this. He’s not good at business. He never will be. The only way his company would’ve survived is if he took a business 101 course and hired a PR guy to take on the internet for him.
My favorite was Jason offering 10k for anyone to find a design flaw with his hubs. Hummie calls out 8mm axles will bend or snap. Proceeds to run over the raptor with his truck. Riders proceed to snap 8mm axles, switches to 10mm axles, riders proceed to snap those and he switches to 15mm? @hummieee never got his 10k
Dude you are a persistent fellow, I hope I did respond to @professor_shartsis, we just had a lot of off topic posts so I started a new thread. According to the reddit posts he found he was correct, hummie was in the game before carvon was. New Information to me. Also apparently some dude from 2007 beat everyone to the game. I should look at reddit more often.
No ones getting that money boys
I was just joking lol…
That dude from 2007 is Justin Le, he pays the bill for endless sphere hosting (at least last I checked he used to). That guy is like a mad scientist, check his other builds, weight sensing throttle control or balance boards he made those a long time ago.
He is an ebike vendor/builder, well respected one too.
I realize again that it is difficult to sell complete ESK8.
If one component is bad, ESK8 will not be completed.
Spend time and money on one bad part, destroying credibility.
I think his personality got worse in the process.
Sticking to the hub motor was the biggest mistake.
Not guilty. (This time)
@Mobutusan were you thinking of the interview that @Lee_Wright did with Jason at the Paris event last year?
Thank you! You are correct. This is why I don’t trust my memory for remembering stuff. 
Here’s the post I was thinking of. Sorry @bigben. 
https://forum.esk8.news/t/turns-out-enertion-is-fucked-discuss-here/8418/793?u=mobutusan
And @SeanHacker I think you’re right. I guess I was unwittingly taking hits off the Potter Hype Pipe back in the day when he was touting his business acumen and talking about underpromising and overdelivering. I guess that was just marketing and none of that was actually real.
I reveived a w.a.s.p. and still have one. It doesn’t work though, as the quality control seems to be inadequate on the moulding process.
convenient
I was going to go to the Brisbane leg mainly to confront him about where my shit was after I took one for a ride but they didn’t put up where it was
Same. I pissed myself laughing after I blew in it and heard absolutely nothing but air. So Enertion. Ha
Well you could return it for just 20% More then what you paid
Ok but why would anyone want to use a whistle while eskating? Some type of honking replacement?
So although this sounds stupid I believe it could still be true
Though enertion as a brand is gone and Jason is hated there were certain employees and products which enertion made that I believe most people really did appreciate
- the unity
- focbox
- motors
- integrated deck
- mounts
So maybe with the help of certain community members these products could be made again in a new brand which just take some out the good from enertion
Get rid of Jason and enertion
Get @carlcollins066 and focbox.com
What do you guys think
@carlcollins066 is just as much of a cock as Jason. He knew he was in the wrong but played along with it until he stopped getting paid.