i feel like its a given that mods are well respected members of the community. mods are users and have their opinions just like everyone else. If many mods and other respected members are all saying similar things about a vendor then its smart to listen.
IMO a mods decision shouldn’t make a the call on where i spend my money, I don’t want mods restricting or green lighting specific vendors. When i want to make a decision its always good to have experienced users opinions to inform my judgement but ultimately it should be my decision. Sometimes i make a good choice and sometimes i make a bad choice, but im the only one accountable for that.
If i want to give my money to someone with no track record then that is my decision, i might think the benefit outweighs the risk. I have to evaluate the odds of loosing my money and how important that money is to me. Its a life skill and there is only one way to learn it.
That makes sense, I can agree with that whole heatedly.
Very good analogy. The only thing I would add is that is not a secret from you, its a person/business protecting their investment and the secret itself is not deceptive to buyers.
I will add seasoned vendors usually get a pass keeping stuff close to the vest, its seen as a tactic to protect innovation and capital investment. New vendors have to be transparent for the most part or its seen as secretive and a risk, given the last couple of years with Carvon, Enetrion, Jed, etc.
i brought 2 pairs of truck cause it was cheaper as im already paying shipping. Anyone want to other pair? where do i find the form so i can become a forum approved vendor?
Let me also say this: anyone who wants a private yes or no check on a vendor is free to PM me at any point. I won’t speak for the rest of the staff, but I imagine the other admins and mods would also be okay offering this.
Are you going to continue to offer these trucks for sale after you sell your single extra pair? If not, then I think its unnecessary. My point is that its easy to differentiate between a vendor/manufacturer and a dude. For those situations where it is not, then we can address those as they come up.
I am not advocating a…
…designation, I am simply saying that it is info people should expect to be able to find easily and that a vendors identity should NOT be a secret, this ain’t the CIA or MI6 FFS. If a vendor doesn’t trust the community enough to provide that info, the the community should not trust a vendor enough to buy his product.
I think this is what Mike was getting at with me. There is definitely a line. And I don’t think you would be considered as a vendor for this activity.
What may be considered as vendor activity would be facilitating a group buy. Even if the facilitator stands to not make any profit,they would still be responsible for many monies and should be held accountable for that
i agree that a group buy could be classed as a vendor, but my point is in this case who is responsible for checking this vendor out? i dont think its the mods responsibility to have to do this, its the users. If you going to give your money to someone its your responsibility to check who they are.
bingo, but this can easily be done with a PM from a user to the vendor. if youve got questions about a vendors practices or identity, message them. If they trust you they will reply any questions you have and info you want. If they are not fourth-coming with you then dont give them your money.
I certainty don’t want invention stifled and see the obviously problem there. It would be unwelcoming to new vendors trying to launch products and would certainly steer at least one new vendor away.
I think of it more as a similar restriction to new forum users not being able to over post, kids not being able to run group buys, and other general forum rules.
I don’t see a clear solution, just spit balling here
Bottom line. I don’t want to spend the next two years with people speculating that some new vendor is actually @onloop in drag. I would rather know for certain.
That’s a good start. But don’t forget Jeff has units in people’s hands. And so did boa. Everyone grabbed thier pitchforks anyway, so we definitely need to start here but keep building on it somehow.
Why can’t we just exchange informations on esk8 here and they do their business elsewhere (eBay, B2C, Amazon, etc…) ? It would resolve a lot of things, avoid a lot of dramas and BS !
Yes we want vendors here for sure! That way we can collectively tell them what we want, what we will and won’t stand for, and what they can improve and how to do it.
Can’t we have it both ways honestly?
Vendors can choose to submit the info and be considered to be verified. Vendors can choose not to and be considered unverified. Members can choose to stick with someone who is verified or gamble with anonymous…
