circuit board repair? Kweld to be specific.

So I made a bone head move and got distracted by something and I touched a meter probe to my kweld. I know I know, why is it not in a case, well I printed one but it was mirrored for some reason and I didn’t have any more filament so I was using it anyway, yep I’m a dummy and trashed a $250 machine.

The machine immediately turned off and will not come back on, I touched the prob somewhere in the bottom of the screen or the knob.

Is there anywhere I can send this for repair?

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support@keenlab.de

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Already shot them an email, also the Canada retailer.

I’m going to take it to my shop tomorrow and look under the microscope, I don’t see anything with the eye damaged.

Looking for someone who knows pcb and the components that can troubleshoot it if the manufacturer can’t help.

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Unless you know what is broken, fault tracing, repairing, paying for postage etc will prob run you more than 250 bucks.

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@tatus1969

I believe you are the maker of this product, hope you don’t mind my tag, think it’s toast? I can not see any visible damage.



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I cannot spot anything bad on the board, except for lots of debris. If some of that is metallic, then this can make you a bad day (or has already).

You can try to troubleshoot the board, maybe it is something simple:

  • do you measure 10V across the large black capacitor?
  • do you measure 3.3V across the two leftmost sockets of the LCD connector?
  • does IC3 get hot (that’s the 3.3V regulator)?
  • does any other part get hot?
  • how much current does the unit draw when powered from a 12V bench power supply?

Cheers Frank

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Thanks Frank, I really appreciate the tips on where to look, definitely my dumb ass that caused the bad day not the debris, I know for sure I touched the probe of my meter to somewhere in the area of the pins for the screen or the pins of the potentiometer, my son asked me for a screwdriver for his toy and I was careless with my hand when I was paying attention to him. Live and learn, expensive lesson though haha.

I have 10v across the capacitor
I do not have voltage across the left two pins on the lcd
The ic3 regulator does get warm
I did not find any other warm components

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sounds like its strugling, either damaged or you have a short on the 3.3V net(either inside the IC or on the PCB). Try meassuring resistance between the 3.3V net and a ground point. Anything below kOhm is no good

Am I correct in assuming that the pin on ic3 read as follows

I have 10v between pin one and three but less then one volt between pin two and three, which I assume should read 3.3v?

This leads me to believe that the ic3 regulator is bad?

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Or ground in the center and output on right pin? Either way I should have 3.3v on pins two and three… I think

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Yeah I’m pretty sure ground is center pin, not only do I not have 3.3v output, I have continuity between pin two and three which I also don’t believe should be so.

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For anyone following along, I’ve learned that any short on the 3.3v net could create the issues seen at ic3, it could be a symptom, not the cause.

Another assumption on my part, is that since I shorted pins on the lcd (and see no physical damage externally) that are fed from the ic1 stm32f, and I have continuity between Vss And Vdd the short could be internal to ic1 thus renders the kweld irreparable, well I assume not cost efficient since I couldn’t replace the ic1 myself and I assume it would need programming even if I could.

Again a lot of assumptions, or deductions, lol

Is there a way to check resistance to isolate the short either before or after or to the ic1 itself to rule that out or confirm without removing it?

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I believe I looked at the diagram correctly, Vss and Vdd 2&3 are shorted but Vss_1 and Vdd_1 are not on my chip

Again all assumptions on my part, I have no idea what I’m doing lol

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:crossed_fingers: :heart:

For anyone who’s was following along, the consensus is that I fried the chip, and even if I could replace it, wouldn’t be able to program it. The vendor, grid rewired in Canada was great and sold me just the board and saved me a good chunk of money to get up and running again.

Moral of the story, don’t be a dummy like me and use unprotected electronics around lose metal objects and expect things to survive.

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I’ve got two of these kwelders I managed to short and now broken. I’m hoping to find someone in the sf Bay Area who could repair them. If u fix one u can have the other