Ive no doubt they’re solid, more just looking forward to hearing what these riders have to say about them, comparisons to other truck styles etc. I guess people will start talking once they’re officially released 
exciting stuff!
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I believe it! Love seeing the development behind these and not releasing them until they’re 100%. Can’t wait to grab a pair!
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I’d invite @Andy87 to give his thoughts when he is ready. Andy is riding on the version 1 trucks, he’s asked for a set from the production batch so I think he’s keen.
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mind spilling what steel/ heat treatment was used? (i’m a slight steel freak). and hollow axles or proper ones (solid)
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EN24T
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Well, I really enjoy riding those trucks.
Especially in combination with the stiff Bro96 deck and 5 degrees wedges it’s just 
It’s a perfect Allrounder and super easy and quick to swap between setups.
It’s a good carver but also performing well off-road and stable on higher speeds.
I have a small 14mm spanner on my keys so I can make adjustments when ever needed on the go.
Wanna carve, ride the trucks lose,
wanna go over fields, just give that kingpin nut two extra turns and ride them more stiff
wanna go for a jump session, just swap the back bushings. It’s done in 1 min.
That flexibility is really something I don’t wanna miss.
With springs+dampas or shock blocks it always took a bit of a time to change setups.
What else to say?!
They are light.
They are smooth to ride due to the bushings acting like a damper.
Downsides?
So far I didn’t really experienced anything.
I was a bit worried about the kingpin and nuts getting damaged by hitting stones, but so far the damage is reasonable minimal.
Just normal wear i would expect from any other truck as well.
I‘m not riding in areas with many big stones thou, but I guess most of us do not either.
From the V1 there have been already quite some good design changes and I’m confident the version which will be for sale at one point will be a great product.
I‘m also seeing apex listening to constructive feedback to make the truck better by every day and revision 
Really looking forward to more people riding those trucks.
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Sounds really good, do you also have data on the weight? Might pick them up for a jumping board if they r lighter than mbs m2’s 
900 g matrix 2 to 817 g Apex air
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They are more light than Matrix2.
As there have been some design changes since the V1s i can’t tell you the exact weight of the ones that will be for sale.
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Thats pretty good, now I have matrix 2 trucks with the plastic baseplate which are pretty light. Just have to see how long the baseplates will hold up though guess when they break its apex air time 
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Could you give me a ball park price for a set? Also is there a moon drive mount that will be coming for the apex trucks?
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They work with the Trampa non cnc clamp.
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Hey, I did want to ask. How did you get your ESC enclosure installed on the Haero? Specifically the mount plate. The Bro is so wide at the tips, you can’t really take the enclosure off without taking the mount plate off. Unless I’m just stupid haha
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So you see the 4 bolts that bolt through the mount plate and into the base plate? Those are the ones you remove to take the enclosure off (although you never need to do that on our trucks, just 2 kingpin nuts and the whole hanger is free) this leaves the mount plate bolted to the deck with the truck bolts.
For the bro, you will be able to tighten the top two no issues, but the bottom two the deck is in the way. What I do is I use the mount plate as a drill guide and put a 4mm hole through the deck, then use a 35mm M4 bolt and washer and bolt through the deck, through the mount plate and into the base plate. Looks super neat actually.
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Awesome thanks!
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Congrats on the new trucks, they look great. Wish you success with these! 
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Baseplate angle is zero?
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Just catching up so forgive me if i repeat things others have already said but i wanted to clarify a few things im reading here.
The current version was designed in collaboration with @moon. We had some concept ideas and wanted to start making prototypes. He kindly offered to help turn these ideas into first prototypes as he already had experience with designing his trucks.
This collaboration means that we were able to standardise many dimensions between both designs which ultimately is better for everyone. Were using the same 22mm profiles as many other manufacturers so a wide range of drives should fit and were both using the same accessory attachment mechanism so Moon / Apex accessories should be cross compatible.
These are very different to “DKP” as those have their bushings in series whereas our trucks have them in parallel.
Parallel KingPin or “PKP” is probably a better way of describing them so that they are not confused with other DKP style trucks.
They have no fixed pivot points like TKP, RKP, and traditional channel trucks. This means that they are very smooth on rough terrain whilst remaining very stable.
They do, however the geometry is quite different. The NoSno has its kingpins as part of the hanger and its pivot point right up at the deck making it very stable but not very responsive. The Apex Air has the kingpins on the baseplate pushing the pivot point down around the same position as other common channel trucks. This makes the ride much more responsive and “divey” as it allows the rider to drop into turns the way were used to.
This is whats novel about the Apex Air and is the key to its almost infinite tunability. Adapting the design to use standard skate bushings means that you can use different durometers, bushing profiles, and even thane formulas to change the ride feel. Were using Riptide KranK bushings which come in 4 profiles and 5 durometers so that’s already 20 potential options and that is before you consider other formulas or brands.
We’ve worked out some recommended busing combos but encourage experimentation and were keen to see what great combinations others can find.
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