@BillGordon thanks for staying on this thread and doing the best you can with it. This may not be the biggest challenge as faras threads go but i can see how difficult it is to mod these kinds of discussions.
@Trampa thanks for not completely losing your cool, pretty much, ever. I don’t have half the patience you do in the face of public adversity.
@jeffwuneo thanks for being you.
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Well, that was an interesting waste of an afternoon. This should be added to a required reading list for the new folks. Not sure that it resolved anything but definitely informed.
Also interesting to see that Jeffwuneo was the esk8 golden boy just over five months ago. Tough crowd here. Lol.
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Skyart
May 31, 2020, 9:23pm
#613
You are getting caught up with alot of esk8 history very fast! Lol
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abusfullofnuns:
Tough crowd here.
Tough crowd here when you try to deceive.
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Bump.
This thread is worth a read for anyone unaware of @trampa ’s illegal business practices.
Blatant anti-competition from a company supposedly supporting open source development.
Fun starts here:
Wow just wow! Not sure what it is that you are taking but damm it must be strong. Can’t imagine he would talk with you after your actions.
I had a great contact with stewii at the time and don’t know what happen. We worked together regarding housings and I did ESCape logo for him. One day he just stop anwsering. My take on this is that Frank made this whole thing not worth doing for him especially that they are both on UK but THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION!
Here’s something to back this up…
stewwi …
I do not personally buy Trampa products or associate with them as a direct result of these immoral and/or small dick energy practices.
Frank:
Hi Andre,
as I have seen on the forum, you are planning to make bigger batches of the HW 6. I want to inform you about the fact that we have obtained various design rights of the VESC SIX. They cover the product as a almost square box with cover plate, cables and connectors/ports. They don’t show any colours, nor any specific graphics, and in consequence all colour and graphic options are protected. The designs are about the shape, proportions and visual appearance of the product we placed on the market and not about colour and logos and cover PCB design. .
If you plan to put a HW 6 ESC on the market, please consider to use a substantial different design to ours to avoid clashing with our designs. There are many ways to design a housing and place the connectors. The Esk8 1.1 controller and FOCBOX are good examples of how a design can differ from ours. The current design you use is obviously a straight copy of our product. Placing such a product on the market breaches our IP and confuses customers, thinking they can get the same product/quality from a different vendor at a different price tag. Since it is not the same product/quality, you should avoid to confuse customers by using the very same design. There is a good reason why you can protect your designs. It takes time and efforts to build up a fabulous product/brand reputation! If you steal a design you also steal some of the product reputation someone else built up.
I hope you understand our position and will act accordingly, avoiding any clashes with our IP.
My advice to you is: Never copy a product, always get inventive and try to create your own product, having its own USPs and features. This way you avoid legal clashes and you put yourself in a better position when you build up your own brand and reputation. Always make your product distinctly different from the product of your competition.
the words of Frank Drenckhahn.
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webst
October 12, 2021, 7:05am
#617
Anyone has one ESCApe somewhere? My dual has internal shortage on PCB (checked with x-ray) and I need anything that fits in it’s place.
I question illegal, the point is what he doing is Legal but immoral same as apple coppy weighting a Squar phone with round corners
Is attack every thing including the focbox unity helping the VESC project or is it in trampas interest of profits?
My escapes still going strong
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Sounds reliable. Where can one purchase these?
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I heard someone on this forum is doing a group buy, here’s the sign up sheet.
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Ricco
October 21, 2022, 11:12pm
#626
Same here! so glad I got one while I could!
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With all the ads these days it’s just not quite the same
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Duffman
October 22, 2022, 11:18am
#628
Also running them since day one and hitting them really hard with 140A MC and 190A ABS OC.
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That’s good to know they are playing well with the silent hfi! I think i need to try it
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Andy87
October 22, 2022, 11:25am
#630
One more day one owner and still running strong.
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awesome escs
