An Evasive icon: The ESCape

Wow just wow! Not sure what it is that you are taking but damm it must be strong. Can’t imagine he would talk with you after your actions.
I had a great contact with stewii at the time and don’t know what happen. We worked together regarding housings and I did ESCape logo for him. One day he just stop anwsering. My take on this is that Frank made this whole thing not worth doing for him especially that they are both on UK but THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION!

Here’s something to back this up…
stewwi was developing ESCapes more


Here’s a dual pcb.

And one mail from Frank that he shared with me.

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stewii

Here is the email
I havent answered him, and im not sure if i will, I dont want to waste my time

Hi Andre,

as I have seen on the forum, you are planning to make bigger batches of the HW 6.
I want to inform you about the fact that we have obtained various design rights of the VESC SIX. They cover the product as a almost square box with cover plate, cables and connectors/ports. They don’t show any colours, nor any specific graphics, and in consequence all colour and graphic options are protected. The designs are about the shape, proportions and visual appearance of the product we placed on the market and not about colour and logos and cover PCB design. .

If you plan to put a HW 6 ESC on the market, please consider to use a substantial different design to ours to avoid clashing with our designs. There are many ways to design a housing and place the connectors. The Esk8 1.1 controller and FOCBOX are good examples of how a design can differ from ours.
The current design you use is obviously a straight copy of our product. Placing such a product on the market breaches our IP and confuses customers, thinking they can get the same product/quality from a different vendor at a different price tag. Since it is not the same product/quality, you should avoid to confuse customers by using the very same design. There is a good reason why you can protect your designs. It takes time and efforts to build up a fabulous product/brand reputation! If you steal a design you also steal some of the product reputation someone else built up.

I hope you understand our position and will act accordingly, avoiding any clashes with our IP.

My advice to you is: Never copy a product, always get inventive and try to create your own product, having its own USPs and features. This way you avoid legal clashes and you put yourself in a better position when you build up your own brand and reputation. Always make your product distinctly different from the product of your competition.

I didn’t bother to drag this out before but just can’t stand what Frank is doing. To be honest I think Trampa got some great products but can’t stand this behavior of Frank. @mmaner seems sometimes a bit overreacting but don’t be fulled as he is damn right . Read email from Frank and see what self denying things he wrote.

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