60V 32Ah (1920Wh) E-Bike Battery for Esk8?

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Hi All,

Recently I saw an advertisement that Segway (the upright scooter company) is making a electric dirt bike. After more research it seems like Segway is just rebranding a chinese manufactured bike called the “Sur-Ron X”. What caught my eye was the specs for the battery in the bike - a whopping 60V 32 Ah battery made with 184 Panasonic PF cells.

You can buy just the battery for about $1080 USD. That price for 1920 Wh & 90A continuous output seems pretty reasonable IMO. The battery is BMS protected and is housed in an aluminum enclosure that is allegedly water resistant. It has a built in volt-meter for detecting how charged it is and looks like it might be a relatively high quality build.

Has anyone ever considered using something like this and is this a stupid idea? Maybe for mountain boards these batteries could be strapped on and make for a sick pre-built top mount. I’d imagine the range would be monstrous.

cheap price: https://www.elecycles.com/sur-ron-light-bee-60v-battery.html
detailed specs: https://lunacycle.com/sur-ron-60v-32ah-spare-battery/

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I mean yes they would be wonderful for it, but at over a foot long? That’s a chunky boy…for most people you can’t comfortably stand with it between your legs unless it hangs off the sides (prone to impacts) or stands vertical (lot of inertial stress on the mounts)

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Range would be awesome, but power density is horrible. Those Panasonic cells just don’t scale well down to our applications.

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Backpack?

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Just bolt some trucks and a drivetrain to it and use it as a deck

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For 1080 bucks you could get a kweld or malectrics spot weld system, a power source for it, all the bits and pieces you would need for a battery and about…I dont know like a billion 30qs or 40ts…maybe not a billion but enough to build a similar power density pack, exept in whatever shape and size you wish. If you are looking for mad range, I would suggest doing that, and perhaps considering a bottom mount+small top mount configuration if you cant fit everything on the bottom.

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Its at $0.56/wh. Ok in price. Not super great deal or anything.
Also, with 60v, you’d need to wait for upcoming 20s esc’s to handle that.

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You would also need to take out a small loan to build a board capable of properly using that much power… and the weight would effect the handling for sure

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Most vesc can’t handle 60v, (it’s the maximum voltage a vesc could take) unless you look into those higher and more expensive options.

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I’ve got a Flipsky 6.6 Plus Dual that is specced to take up to 60V on their website, not sure how it would actually hold up though. I’ve got two 63100 motors as well so I can suck up a lot of juice as well with those bad boys. Currently I am on LiPo batteries but I saw these and thought it was an interesting alternative for a pre-built li-ion.

There’s a smaller version of this battery to that is 48V and 24Ah. I wonder how that battery would be as well…

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Flipsky is the #1 company where you don’t want to listen to their numbers.

It’s a good solution but too big for a reasonable longboard or mountain board unless you are @Saturn_Corp

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It already handles 50V @ 100 amp max per motor fine so I am assuming it can possibly do 60V 45A per motor as well.

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60v nominal is ~68v fully charged up.
Any vesc based esc will definitely blow because it has electrical components that will definitely blow above 60v

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For around the same price, you can get:
4 of these and make a 200a 2304wh 10s battery pack for $1100.
Or 3 of them and have a 150a 1728wh 10s battery pack for $825

" 35 mile Battery THICK" option: https://metro-board.com/e-skate-shop/battery-metroboard/

These are at $0.48/wh which is significantly cheaper.
You would still need to figure out an enclosure, but they’ll be in a more versatile form factor

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Flipsky is specced to blow up at any voltage. :upside_down_face:

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This us true, as it has happened to me twice

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I am using PF cells in my 10S10P board. As long as the P depth is above 8 or so, they do fine :slight_smile:

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10S10P is that on your evasive Longboard we have seen only very few pics of in the wild.

Please tell me it’s on a MTB.

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:smiley: How does the voltage curve hold up for you?

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