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This would be MBS pattern, but the first set is gonna be made in probably like 9-10 months only. And would for sure need testing before I would release it for sale. The price would also be high, probably even compared to other CNC’ed hubs. The issue is, that while I managed to make it easily millable on a 3 axis, I added a lot parts which means lot of mill time and lot of material. Also it would be like 620g or so per hub even without the record amount of fasteners used (at least in the current iteration). So likely between 675-750g in the end. Probably the heaviest in class. With that said, the swappable hub spoke / cap and the easy tire change might be good enough features that some people would be willing to pay extra for.

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I’m definitely in that group of people, although the added weight is my main concern.

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Lol the “Sigelei” tips me right off that this is in fact a vape battery

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I could try to shave it down to a degree, but it’s still gonna end up heavier than other hubs, no matter what I do. Would probably be able to shave it down to 500g with fasteners I think. Will see what i can do, it’s still like 9 months or so before I will be able to buy a capable CNC I think.

Also if I sell a few things that I will make on the CNC, I could use the profit to reinvest into the business by acquiring a second smaller 3 axis CNC that I would try to convert into a 4 or 5 axis machine. That would open up a lot more possibilities for less complicated, and ultimately lighter designs. No chance I would be able to afford something that’s sold as 5 axis.

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what’re those rims and wheels on the right? looks like stretched kendas


200x75s on kaly fat hubs.

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Must have been a coincidence, because the only thing in vesc that tells it to drive the motors at the same or similar speed is if you have traction control enabled. Otherwise you can definitely have 1 tire slip out and spin faster, especially on turns.

But that’s a smart way to test it to be fair, I’m tempted to do that myself to see the difference.

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Holy crap that’s insane. That’s more than most wheels plus the tire and pulley

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AFAIK pretty much everyone except moe stooge and company continue to use vesc based controllers.

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Not everyone

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All this guys on the Zeus are rocking hobbywing right?

Keep in mind I am yet to do any optimisation weight wise. Could probably work it down to be in the 450g range I think, will see what I can do later. I can definitely shave down weight from the spokes and the bearing seats. I should also model the hex spacers and the screws to get an exact number. Right now I am just guessing the weight of those.

The final product will be much lighter than the current iteration, but it will still be heavier than other hubs due to the extra material that the interconnects require. To make it millable on a 3 axis in one operation, I can not think of a design that requires less than 5 parts.

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I want names. All of them.

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@Arzamenable, that seems to me to be a li-ion ultracap, often with a current rating of about 1C. That would be 0.5A.

It might be Sigelei branded (they wrap and market some standard li-ion cells for vaping) but that doesn’t appear to be a “vape” battery IMHO. I’ve never seen a vaping device use a standard li-ion cell in a capacitor shell.

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@Anubis
hey Ben! thanks for the hanger! do you know if the bionomics gear drive works on trampa hubs somehow?
Thanks

I’ve seen some small (usually disposable) vapes use small Li-Ion cells in capacitor packages. Usually small Chinese brands not a big one like Sigelei though.

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Interesting!
You’re sure those were li-ion cells and not li-ion caps?

Definitely not sure, I just assumed a power-supplying component would be a battery.

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Because of their much longer long life, lower sensitivity to heat, and increased safety, caps are often used for backup power and primary power in energy-harvesting and other lower power circuits.

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