Well I would say his ankle only needs to lean 17 degrees while the trucks are leaning the other 30 degrees because of the low angles 25/10 angles. If you were to run 45/30 your ankle would be the one that needs to lean 30 degrees in order to get the 47 overall lean angle.
The 47 degree here is deck to ankle (43 deg from vertical). Couple that with the 30 degree lean of the deck, I can lean 73 degrees from vertical, or 17 degrees from horizontal. Although if I were to actually grip while leaning that far, I would have around 3.3G cornering force, and I don’t think there’s any tire on the esk8 market that can do more than half of that.
I probably have the grip for like 55-58d from vertical in perfect conditions. (tan(lean angle in deg)= G force
However if 30 degree comes from the truck and only 25-28 degree comes from my ankle, I have much more control and it’s more comfortable.
Oh shoot I mixed that up… Your build is starting to remind me of the carveboard which was a huge inspo on the truck development
that looks like so much fun
Wow I wasn’t aware that was a thing! It looks so much!!! It definitely looks similar to my board and @Swol_Moon’s “milf hunter” build, without which I wouldn’t have been aware that these kind of tyres exist
Crickey e=mc² those are some calcs.
Enjoy the ride dude
Another reflection on the 25/10 angles.
Just had my first T-race session on them. No records or anything, but first impressions confirmed that the lower angles make pushing the grip limit easier and I feel like that the extra lean angle that my body does to compensate for the less turn pays off in grip as well.
The lower angles however also felt more tiring to ride on short track, because they make me have to lean more to get the same amount of turn.
Waldshut race is coming up in 2 weeks and that’s about as short of a track as it gets (T-race feels like a medium length track compared to that), I am gonna keep the 25/10 until then but I might have to switch back to 30/15 for waldshut, will see. If I have to switch back to 30/15 I am definitely coming back to 25/10 after the race though. I’m gonna be running the 9x3.5 slicks there on the indoor surface, I prioritized having 4wd ready for the Montrevel race in August compared to getting a set of indoor tires for waldshut.
Here’s today’s line on the T-race. I was able to max out the 30 degree front lean on multiple laps, but there’s no reason to take a tighter line than this so I am good for T-race. Assuming I can get my endurance back up to a usable level.

I am quite slow at the moment I need to get back out there more frequently, which I will mostly have the time for from now on.
IMO anything under 15s isn’t slow.
That’s true, but pretty far from my 14.04 pb this direction
I think I know part of the issue though. Now that I’ve ridden without a glove for the first time in a while I felt so much more in control of the throttle. (That was outside the track though)
And then I put on the glove and immediately felt like I am not as precise with the throttle…
Actually ever since using the glove on the remote hand I couldn’t do better than 14.70
I gotta make the glove more comfortable somehow because I really need the extra precision. Maybe the answer is a different glove, idk
some of us have cut the finger off the glove.
I also cut it off already
It’s the knuckle protector that’s in the way. I am thinking about taking a dremel to it and try to make it less restrictive but not sure if it’s gonna help without butchering the glove.
Back in the mid 14s. The main thing that I have to work on is my endurance actually.
After today I am actually feeling pretty confident that the 25/10 angles would work for waldshut too. That’s a DKP dominant track for those not aware. These trucks turn this good.
And Tilo offered me a set of well used exway venators so I won’t need to race the slicks there. Can’t wait for the race next Saturday!

The main thing that I have to work on is my endurance actually
Got podium in Waldshut!!!
It was a really close race between me, Vic, and Cedric. And Tilo @TZDKB was in his own league. The fastest gokart on a prepped track was 31.9s and he did 31.1s on an unprepped but decently clean track. My best was 33.56s. Unfortunately turnout wasn’t very high but huge shoutout to the organisers for still making it the best given the circumstances. @davidpilny
And huge thanks to Tilo for these used exway venator tires. I tried the 9x3.5s in there and those had like 1/3 of the grip compared to these. Tilo really saved the day for me with these tires. They were suprisingly grippy on this indoor track. Also with the drop in size and weight I was struggling a bit with taming the throttle. 200A per motor and 5.2 ratio on these is crazy. I’ll have to do a drag race session just to see how quick I can accelerate on these because if they have the grip, I might be on track for a podium in the 0-20 drag race… But other then that I’ll keep them for indoor use only
Also suprisingly I didn’t struggle with turning on the 25/10 angles even though this is probably the tightest track that an esk8 race has been organized on. Although the really low angles took a toll on my endurance, so I would have either needed more frequent practise sessions in the past month or a bit higher angles. My thighs were burning for the last lap and each race was only like 100 seconds plus a warmup lap…
Done some drag racing on the exway venators. I can’t full throttle now
354A max drawn from the available 400A
It’s technically possible to improve this time on the current setup but I’m gonna take the tires off and save them for indoor tracks
Sorry, I’m sorta hijacking this thread rn but

Tilo really saved the day for me with these tires
You more than returned the favour with the bearings
idk how I managed to blow two bearings in warm-ups but it is what it is
It’s pretty crazy how quick you can blow them out! Glad I could save the race for you!
First few parts are in for the rebuild!
I’ll prepare the new deck with the new enclosure and only take the current setup apart when everything is prepared.
Gonna be a loooot of work though but can’t wait for the final result!
Printing new wideners. On the right there’s the standard mbs rockstar ii pro xl hub, in the middle the current 20mm width, on the left the new 34mm width.
This should increase the lip to lip distance to 88mm, full hub width 94mm.
It’s going to make the tires go from squished to maybe very slightly stretched but fairly neutral.
It’s a new filament so now comes all the headache to figure out the clearances.