I don’t really give a knobhole about this whole argument because 12mm axles don’t snap and this has been resolved.
I would however like you to stop calling wheel “tires”. Help me lawd.
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I don’t think there’s any consensus on whether a 12 mm axle needs to go all the way through or not. It sounded a lot like @dani said it doesn’t…? I’d like to see the simulations behind this…
This thread was very enlightening. I learned so much. 
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First thing anyone have to do before start throwing math around is to make a free body diagram of the loading scenario, without it it’s really easy to misunderstand
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Wont change the fact the guy has no real world experience and yet is all knowing over actual creators.
It’s like you coming to my woodshop and telling me how to cut my planks.
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Agree completely, just saying that any mechanical problem you want to solve for stresses you need to have a clear picture of what is going on before doing any calculations
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@Flasher I posted my real world experience in the other thead before all the safety posts were deleted. @evoheyax
Cut the crap. You have no esk8 building experience. You built one bike. One. And it had to be completely gutted to become useable. Show me your DIY skills and real life building skills (esk8 ofcourse) and then, you might have more people actually reading rather than just scrolling through your replies
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irrelevant - and no it wasnt necessary to gut it, it ran 40mph at 72v just fine
who do you think @hummieee used to text multiple times per week asking advice and bouncing motor ideas throughout nearly his entire development effort? hmm? PM if you want numerous examples of this.
You’re absolutely right. It’s irrelevant to say that someone with no building skills can start telling others that they will fail their builds. In example, come to my shop and tell me one of my machines can kill me. This is why you are not building anything. You follow your numbers too closely rather than trial and error to succeed
So…you’re gonna shitpost people for no longer wanting your help?
this thread is not about any vendor in particular - it is a safety resource for future direct drive makers to avoid mistakes of the past that resulted in harm to forum members.
Now that the Kickstarter is done and no one can back out anymore I’m done with decorum. Fuck off Devin. Don’t call on me here or anywhere else.
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If I could I would man, these hubs on a low key build is ultimate! Good wishes to you bro!
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oooo! breaking up @hummieee 
@professor_shartsis
Someone needs to release a 4mm hub motor setup… then we talking!
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You know whats funny? In Aus Devin is another word for spam
@professor_shartsis you need to seriously hook up with @thurbolt.
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Fu*king nasty shit devon is wouldn’t let my dog eat it. Why did he change his name to shartis?devon seems to be appropriate.
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Technically its devin but thats just semantics