They were (and still are) expensive, I believe they were $35 at the time, which by my calculations is pretty cheap for the reliability you got. I wouldnāt be too surprised if Hoyt pucks were zigbee under the hood.
It was, if I do say so myself, a pretty cool design except with 1 fatal flaw. It had a tilt-pitch-roll sensor in it, no trigger, so when you tilted it up you went fast and when you tilted it down you would brake. It also had an enable/disable button.
The fatal flaw is that when people panic they generally throw their hands straight up in the air, and that kicked it to full power. Not a problem for me but when I let other people ride it was pretty clearly a bad idea.
@magharees I was totally unaware of the OSRR project until now. Not sure how I missed it.
The funny thing is I get better signal integrity on my puck than my xbee OSRR. simulated torture test was metroboard x deck. Reciever face down under my foot right by the phase wires. Puck would only vibrate/channel hop in NYC during a group ride. And Iād never really feel missed packets. Osrr would disconnect and lose telemetry in a cornfield if I held my remote above my waist.
This isnāt scientific by any means, but itās certainly telling.
were you using the XBee pros or the regular ones? This is the one I used:
But I havenāt used it in a lot of years (despite the fact that itās still sitting right here on my desk. Clearly my hoarder tendencies outweigh my organizational skills)
Thousands of people using the remote for thousands of miles and it has a fantastic reputation for itās ridiculously reliable signal connection.
Other remotes suffer connection drop outs occasionally or rarely. Very few (none) have such a solid reputation as the puck.
The puck has one downfall in its not very robust potentiometer, but itās still the best out there in terms of signal reliability, which is what many people care about most.
Props to Hoyt for actually getting the thing tested
Also, based on the form factor and pinouts (note where the antenna, GND, 3v3 castellations are) we could probably track down more or less which module it is.
Iām hoping that the lack of bug reports means that the new firmware has been running flawlessly for everyone! Just to check in though, if you have installed the new firmware and been putting miles on it, I would love to hear a long-term check in regarding any issues/bugs/glitches/hiccups/whatever that you think is related to the new firmware.
Or if you have just been riding and loving it, I would love to hear that too! Especially if you can give an estimate of mileage
New Puck Firmware
Iāve installed it and been using it with no issues!
Iāve installed it fine, but have not been using it much
Iāve installed it and been using it with some issues (explain below)
Iāve not installed it, I just feel the need to click on every poll I see because I have no impulse control
Youāre in luck though, because barring any unforeseen issues we are going to start shipping this new firmware on all Pucks starting very soon. So everyone will get the zoomy throttle curve, right out of the box.
And yes, this means we are going to have to sit down and update all ~400 pucks we have in stock, one by one
Did have a one-off issue. Not sure if its due to the new firmware.
We were doing mach one acceleration tests, both boards had pucks on new fw. One board was sitting idle for about 10min with remote off while we were doing drag runs on the other board.
Very strangely on one of the runs at the exact moment William stabbed the throttle on his board, mine took off and decided to lock on full throttle. Luckily it hit a grass patch and started doing donuts (I swear our boards just to want to be sideways all the time).
Once I turned my remote back on it stopped and worked as normal and has never happened again. Very strange and probably something to check over but not be too concerned aboutā¦
Another big issue is the potentiometer mounting. Nothing has still been done to address the fact that the pots are only mechanically held by mission critical solder pads which easily crack if the remote is dropped resulting in full throttle lock.
See video below where one of our brand new pucks gets stuck on full throttle after a fall.
I was unable to repair this puck because the solder pads had seperated from the fiberglass.
Iāve heard of people having pretty full on crashes, even one with a Lacroix board being snapped in half because the remote got stuck on full throttle while the guy was riding and the board hit a tree at high speed. That guy took the remote apart for me and the solder joins on the pot had cracked while he was riding as I had suspected. This was years ago.
There are plenty of people using these remotes that are unaware of this safety issue. I know all it takes to fix is a bit of epoxy around the potentiometer and we just did that for the first batch of Mach Oneās.
But its going to be pretty annoying to have to pull apart and carefully glue 100 brand new remotes next year I do feel like this is something that should have been addressed a long time ago.
Because this critical safety flaw is fixable I still donāt trust any other remotes over the Puck. Itās the most reliable remote out there after that fix is applied. But please Hoyt fix this issue so we donāt have to keep modifying your remotes to keep our customers and the people they ride around safe. Would not be a good look for eskate if a child got taken out by a 17kg eboard hitting them stuck at full 10,000W throttle.
Nevermind I think there could be a bug.
Just got back from a ride with William and he had a stack because he was braking for the corner that I just made ahead of him and his board went from braking to full throttle at the same time I applied my throttle.
Couldnāt recreate it afterwards. We rode for about an hour after that.
Super weird and scaryš
It might not be the puck but weāve never had this prior to changing remote firmware. It really seems like one receiver is getting signals from the other remote. But its happened once for each board now.
I assume most people here are riding alone so be good to have confirmation from people that ride together with both remotes on new fw.
