Why not a used DIY or a pre-built DIY?
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I know…my choice of words there was “confusing”. So, I’ll briefly explain - a board for both street & AT use. Not looking at extreme AT, thus no “mountain” board…but, street/AT riding would be split somewhere between 75/25 & 60/40. The smallest wheels I might run would be the TB110, with 120mm CloudWheels being my ‘standard’, and 6in pneumatics for anything else. Hope that better clarifies what I meant.
True…but, where AT boards are concerned, I’m not recalling seeing any with RKPs. Everything seems to be either DKP, or TKP.
There’s also PKP and Channel in addition to RKP, TKP, and DKP.
At over $3000US, that’s WAAAAAAAAY out of my price range. If I want to spend that kind of money, I might as well go all-out, and buy a Lacroix Nazaré Supersport.
What’s your price range? I bought one for about half that.
I’ll put it this way…if you look at the boards I was initially considering (Ownboard Zeus, Eovan GTS Carbon Super, Meepo Hurricane), that should give you a general idea of what I could afford. Yes, I could go a little higher…but, not $1600-1700 higher.
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Have you looked at this?
Or the category
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Here’s what I say for each item of this list
Avoid the eovan. Even though there’s a “vesc” it’s complete shit. It has power, but it’s not at all smooth and it’s stuttery and unreliable.
Between the ownboard zeus and the meepo hurricane, the zeus has a very comfortable deck and is definitely the most stable of the bunch. TKP is very stable in my experience and the zeus is still the only board I’ve hit 34mph on.
The meepo hurricane is a great carver board, but lately it’s shown that there are lots of reliability issues and parts going bad as it’s using new and unique hardware. The hurricane is by far the most powerful of the bunch.
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and will sell it at twice what you paid
Honestly, that looks nice…REALLY nice…but, not really interested in a gear drive - that sounds (pun intended) ‘noisy’. Seriously, being that I’m also into RC, I’m quite familiar with how transmissions with large high-pitch gears sound. Based on the spacing between motor & pulley, and the fact that it’s a 3-gear ‘transmission’, I’d venture to say the gears are a Mod 1 pitch…possibly Mod 1.5…which means “very noisy”. As for this specific board, one has to wonder why, after spending $3,000, and then only riding it for 25 miles, the seller is selling it. Yes, the seller states, “I am selling it because I don’t like gear drives”…but, if the seller doesn’t like gear drives, then why did the seller buy the board in the first place? Obviously, I don’t know the seller…and, I am NOT trying to insinuate anything ‘illegal’…but, there’s still those “why” questions.
Super beasts are 3k, out of his price range.
Man I know you don’t like the dude and I get why, but can you please stop crashing in every thread he appears in?
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AT boards at 1700$ pp all have some drawbacks, and most are in the battery. If you really don’t want to spend more I’d say to go and look for a used DIY board, thats probably your best bet. 
I bought one for about a third of that
And sold it for 3 times that.
I mean, the board is right behind me, so not really.
Interesting that you provided some “pros & cons” of the boards I was considering…and that your assessment is similar to mine…to which I’ll respond - starting with the one you didn’t mention (which I mentioned in my initial post) - the B-One TITAN Super.
I removed the TITAN from consideration for several reasons, the most important of which had to do with “problems” within the company (most of which are public knowledge, as well as publicly available). The company is very young (approx 1yr), and, to be completely honest, I’ll be surprised if the company is still around 2yrs from now. As for the Hurricane, all that you said…plus, it’s a board mainly concerned with ‘speed’, and nothing about ‘range’. Of the last two, I was initially leaning towards the Zeus…for the same reasons you pointed out, but also because of its range. But, at the same time, I preferred the board shape of the GTS (the Zeus is completely flat down the middle), plus it’s known to have considerably better torque & braking (the Zeus has…or, should I say, ‘had’, which I’ll get into in a sec…mediocre torque & braking). The programmability of the VESC is also a huge ‘plus’ (compared to the “locked down” HW on the Zeus)…but, the biggest ‘problem’ (for me…or, more specifically, my (current) weight) was the DKP trucks.
I was almost ready to “give in”, and get the GTS, when I came up with the idea that led to this thread (which, btw, I typed yesterday morning, but forgot to post until this morning)…and, I’m glad I didn’t order the GTS - partly because of what you said about their VESC, and patrly because of something else. Since I created the thread, some “interesting” things have happened.
As I’m sure many are aware, there’s been a ‘rumor’ going around for the past several weeks (or longer), that Ownboard would be replacing the ESC in the Zeus with a new ESC…although, there was no info/proof to back this claim up. The “problematic programming” of the HW 9028 ESC was the primary reason I was considering the Eovan GTS (knowing HW ESCs from my RC involvement, I was somewhat certain the ‘problem’ was the programming, especially considering the TITAN uses the same ESC & motors, but doesn’t have the same acceleration/braking problems). Over the past 24 hours, someone I’ve been in contact with received his Zeus, to which he discovered “changes” in the acceleration & braking…namely, that both appeared to have been been greatly improved. This was followed by an email from someone at Ownboard, letting me know that the Zeus is currently shipping with a ‘new’ ESC. After replying back for more detailed info, and receiving a reply, it was confirmed - the Zeus DOES now contain a ‘new’ ESC, which drastically improves the acceleration & braking. Granted, I’d be willing to bet that this ‘new’ ESC is not “new”, but is probably the same HW 9028 with new programming. As of the late morning (evening, in China), they have even updated the product page to reflect this.
So, now, the Zeus FINALLY meets what I “want” in an AT Esk8…and, it has already been ordered, and is being prepped for shipment. Does this mean that I have decided to forgo building my own board? NO!!! I built a Class 3 RC crawler completely from a collection of unrelated parts, yet I still build RC kits…and, I’m currently building two more crawlers (another C3, plus a U4) from "parts…so, yes, I will, eventually, get to building my own board. As such, I am going to keep this thread ‘open’, and will continue to check it, and other threads, as well as keep up with the latest Esk8 parts info. It might be one year, or five years, before I actually build it…but, sooner, or later, it will be done. I’m still an Esk8 noob…but, by the time I actually build it, I’m already more confident that it will be done “right”.
Same thinking for me. The company is too new, and they’ve stormed right into the market with seemingly decent products. I’d give them some time before I would even consider them.
According to their facebook group, there’s a better esc in the units shipping now.
Zeus seems good. The problem I suppose is with a heavy rider you’ll feel the wrath of saggy cells, though it is what it is. A zeus with a p42a pack would probably be an ideal board for you.
Another pro of the zeus is the battery construction. It’s the best built battery in a prebuilt I’ve seen. Built like a tank and with SAFETY in mind.
If you want prebuilt, I’ll second or third the zeus for all the reasons previously mentioned. If you want to jump in with both feet and just diy, I’d recommend a Bustin Sporster build. I’m building out two of these myself (4th & 5th builds). The build style (semi flex swappable AT to street) and price match what you stated you want. Plus the board style is similar to the prebuilts you mentioned.
Parts list:
Bustin Sportster deck
Eboosted (eboardsperu) enclosure
Stormcore 60d+/Xenith/Unity (depending on the version of enclosure)
RKP trucks (Surfrodz is my jam, but others like BN)
Motor mounts (here BN wins hands down)
Dual 63XX motors.
12s4p battery from one of the reputable builders
Remote
Random wiring and cables (see the threads on must have junk)
If you are frugal you can build this out around 1600
hey guys! newbie here, i was thinking about getting the Titan or Ownboard Zeus and was looking for a review to make an informed purchase. Then I saw this post that starting changing my mind on whether or not I should buy it the Titan. Idk much about B-one, except it being new on the scene. You say its public knowledge about its problems but I couldn’t find any news or coverage of B-one being problematic. If anyone could shed some light for me on what the “problems” are, that’d great. sorry for my lack of knowledge, once again i’m a newbie.
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