Hooked up a new Puaida ESC to an old Sharkwheel/Teamgee hub board and when I release the throttle the left motor keeps spinning under power for a bit. Doesn’t happen all the time but most of the time it does. In the video they stop together in the first pull, then you can see it stays powered for a bit longer in the other two pulls. This didn’t happen with the old Lingyi/Wanhdt ESC.
I noticed one wheel on my puaida esc seems to spin faster with no load on the bench, and then spins longer after releasing throttle.
I cant notice any difference underfoot and have now put 1300 miles on the esc.
i did order a second one for a second board, that had no brakes, and sent it back to amazon for refund.
just ordered 2 more sets of 105mm puaida motor sleeves and another esc.
That’s what I was thinking but haven’t ridden it yet. It really spins a lot on higher speeds, like 2 seconds off throttle in 4th gear so I was worried it might be an issue.
Seems like some QC issues with the brand. I like the remote, the display, and the customization menus, and on the bench it seems much smoother than the old Lingyi.
Do you know if the ESC auto senses the motor pole pairs? The remote says “10” but I have no idea if that’s correct. I guess it probably wouldn’t run correctly if it was wrong.
I also have the earlier lingyi/puaida with the larger angular remote with fingerhole.
I have used this on no less than 3 different sets of hub motors. I did have issues with it losing connection with the remote, but then stopped using the power button and just used roll to start and have no issues with it anymore. Sometimes when i push it to start it does not want to turn on until I cycle my loopkey.
It claims 2700+ miles but the odometer changes when one changes the wheelsize, and I’ve had 83mm hub motors worn to 76 at the smallest and 105’s as the largest on it. My biggest complaint with its performance was weak brakes. I then got some ‘540 watt’ meepo hub motors and the braking with these motors was at least 30% stronger. I then got the newer Puaida ESC and the brakes got another 30% stronger and I can practically lock them up unless I put all my weight over back foot.
I have run the newest ESC on two different sets of hub motors and I am pretty sure the pole pairs are different between the New old stock Puaida motors and the meepo 540 watt motors althouth they have the same external appearance.
I’ve not opened the motors to inspect the internals.
I’ve not tried to change the motor pole pairs.
I did change the remote to sensorless and the motors got a lot noisier and the whole throttle curve was different and I hated it.
So I just try to ignore the fact that on the bench they spin different rates. The 2024 ESC just works, the brakes are strong, I can go as fast as I need to( flat Florida), unless I have a strong headwind
I love the silence of the hub motors.
I love having a voltmeter and trip odometer on the remote, even if the voltmeter reads 0.4 to 0.6v low.
Maybe one day when I ride a real esk8 with gear or belt drive, I will then realize what i am missing, but for now, Ignorance is bliss.
Edit/add. It does seem like when I am on a loose sandy compacted surface that this uneven power delivery at lower rpms is noticeable, in that there is slightly less ability to traverse such areas, when i first installed the ESC. This newer esc claims to have a smoother acceleration profile, and it does seem to deliver on this claim, compared to the pre2024 esc, especially when returning the throttle after freerolling. The Little Mini board into which I have the pre2024 ESC installed does also accelerate slightly faster with the new old stock Puaida motors and a 10s1P eve40PL at full charge.
The mini is kind of dangerous on gear 4, faster than it needs to be, and with the unexpected torque wheelie factor.
I ordered the 2024 esc for this not just for the trip odometer or voltmeter on remote, or the fact that it allows discharge to 30V instead of 32v, but that One can program the power and speed levels of the 4 gears. I would definitely program gear 3 to be a bit more timid and limit them all to 19/20mph for the short wheelbase Mini. I did hit 28mph and I still get scared when i think of doing that on that little thing. I was bummed that the second 2024 esc i ordered had faulty brakes. I had also swapped the xt60 to an xt90 and MR30’s to MR60s to match my system, and swapped them back before returning it. Thankfully they did not check it too closely.
I have other boards with belt and gear drives, for rougher terrain and hills they are great, but for smooth easy cruising on the flat and easy portability the hubs are the best. I would like a softer and slightly larger set of drive wheels, like 105 clouds or something, if the new ESC has enough torque.
I was worried that with 105mm sleeves vs the 90’s i would lose too much acceleration or brakes, but was pleasantly surprised.
i first put the 105mm Meepo sleeves onto the Puaida NOS motors with the pre 2024 ESC with the weak brakes and they did get weaker, but acceleration was still tolerable. The meepo motors and 105mm meepo sleeves felt likek I got more accelleration and the breakes were downright good. Then the 2024 esc made the brakes outstanding.
The Puaida 105mm sleeves are cast onto aluminum instead of plastic like the 105mm meepo sleeves, have a more rounded profile and are softer. Mine have worn almost almost flat profile now and which is why I ordered two more sets of their 105mm sleeves. They made a huge difference in ride comfort.
I see cloudwheel has some 120mm sleeves which fit my hub motors, but I don’t really need the 120mm passive wheels, and am not sure another 15mm diameter increase will degrease the accelleration and braking to the intolerable zone or not.
The comfort of new Puaida 105mm sleeves is a big improvement over new 105mm sleeves and another level compared to 90mm sleeves, which I have a new unused pair of.
I am also towing my 55lb dog in her 35lb chariot almost every time I roll, and I am clocking in at close to 200lbs myself these days, so i am impressed that 20 tabless 21700 cells and two hub motors are as capable as they are in my usage.
The Aluminum sleeves of the Puaida sleeves help sink magnet heat a lot better than meepo plastic, and also fit the motors tighter, and are quieter, and cheaper too.
The problem I have is my motors are the 6 bolt and take 6 slot wheels which won’t fit most hub sleeves. Cloudwheels only seems to offer 120mm in the 6 slot style now, and I don’t see anyone else making 6 slot knockoffs.
I was unsure of your motor design, that inner bearing cap looked kind of similar but I couldn’t be sure.
My first hub motors which were 72 and 83mm diameter had non replaceable sleeves, and the motorts themselves still work fine, it is just the sleeves are gone, and I much prefer the 90mm+ diameter, and the fact that I can still buy replacement sleeves.
I never opened up the 72mm motors but have opened the 83mm motors plenty of times, as they are prone to sand infiltration. I’ve never opened the Puaida or Meepo motors. They just work, without any meaningful maintenance, other than sleeve rotation or replacement.
Watched your video on my desktop rather than my phone and my motors do the same exactthing on the bench. I’d say just ride it and forget they spin up differe4ntly under no load. From what I read a lot of Vescs do the same thing. I failed with Vesc and hub motors and have not tried again.
I see Puaida has a 12S hub motor ESC option now too, but until I move out of flat Florida, I am likely to just stay with hub motors and 10S. I believe with hub motors the 12S will only increase top speed, but not torque, and add a small % of efficiency. I’d be cool with more torque and efficiency but can go more than fast enough now, strong headwinds excepted.
That slotted motor/sleeve design is a bit of a bummer as it effectively reduces sleeve thickness if a pebble hits on the slot. My 72mm hub motors had super thin sleeves when new, and now heavily worn they are basically not even round anymore, but flatspotted over those slots.
They still work fine but started developing bearing noise, on 7S I ran them dual diagonal drive but ruined the remote on teh 7s ESC. I had considered them for the rebuilt 10S1P lightweight mini, but I am not seeking super light nor super Mini, and I like the 105mm wheels and sleeves and even going back to 90mm is not in the cards unless it will only ever see perfect asphalt.
I wish Cloudwheel would sell just the 120mm sleeves for my motors. My main daily driver has 9 inch pneumatics up front, pushed by 105mm hubs in the rear, and I love the handling and comfort.
If I put the unwanted passive 120’s on the mini’s front hanger I’d likely have bad wheelbite issues, and the 105’s are plenty. It’s a super fun little carve machine/grocery getter/ kayak tow vehicle. Still unfinished but fully functional, it will likely remain in this state for a while, at least until the New Puaida ESC arrives and i test it.
You should keep an eye on Ebay, I’ve seen almost new sets going fairly cheaply at times.
