Duality Trucks by Tito Systems

the esk8 community for these trucks right now
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definitely will do! So far I’m realizing it’s more or less just a mini version of @Dinnye 's raceboi :joy:

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This is like esk8 Pokemon… Only you have to have 2

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That’s been my plan ever since riding his build hahah

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So… I really like adjustability, especially in angles. Any chance we’ll see a baseplate giving us angle adjustability? Kind of like E-Toxx ones?
It may not be a big demand, but I think it’d be neat.

I think with two pivot arms and the special king pin design, an adjustable baseplate would end up being massive. To have any range of adjustability you would need to space it so far out from the deck. I could be wrong, that’s just my intuition from looking at the existing design.

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looks like Ean has done something very similar here:

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That design doesn’t have the same kingpin bushing stack as dualities. It’s much more similar to a channel truck, for which an adjustable baseplate isnt too much hassle. I think the kingpin design of dualities is the reason it would be challenging to make an adjustable baseplate.

That’s just my 2c. I’ll quit talking out my ass now and let Tito tell us if it’s possible or not.

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You can get A LOT of angle range with wedges and flipped baseplates already…

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That’s what I was afraid of.

Honestly, for how little I adjust the angles and how effective wedge plates are, I wouldn’t want the additional mechanical complexity of an adjustable baseplate. Just my opinion though.

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Due to a change of direction and not to derail the thread too much
I have a aet of RKP duality 270mm for sale if anyone is interested?
I’m uk based let me know thx

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I’m massively here for this, IMO adjustable baseplates as a whole are better for testing before buying set angle baseplates/wedges that achieve the desired angles

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Angled baseplates are basically free, very easy to 3D print.

Though, I guess I’m making the assumption that everyone has easy access to a printer.

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my OCD hates wedges. angled bolts are annoying. even if wood is forgiving.

also there used to be a seintiment here which was you’re basically an idiot if you trust a 3d printed riser.

Adjustable angles are usually easier than wedges.

Adjustable angles are usally way nicer than swapping risers, but true after you figure out where you like 'em you do stop adjusting.

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This has been proven wrong through experience, and there are right and wrong ways to do it. I rode my PETG risers on my bro for 1500 miles and they look the same as the day I put them on. They are printed well and are only 5 degrees though. I probably wouldn’t go above 5 degrees

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I like fixed angle baseplates for better durability; less parts that can get loose and fail. Wedges cover the adjustment range within the designated deck type that works best for these trucks imo, which is from 35-30 degrees front and 15-10 degrees rear. With wedges you can fine tune in smaller increments, I regularly use 2.5 or 5 degree increments.

Adjustable baseplates would be nice for unusual deck types. Although I don’t think one baseplate would cover all different deck types since different forward or rearward axle position is usually needed.

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3d printed wedges are absolutely more than fine. You’re only ever loading them compressively, they can more than easily handle that load - just print them solid with full perimeter walls and they’ll never fail.

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Took a huge hit to break these risers:

Iirc it was 8 or 9 wall passes and 70% gyroid or similar non linear fill. Just basic bitch pla did really well.

This failed on a 30+ mph wreck that bent my matrix 3 hanger. Plenty strong in compression and at first i was like “ill make a stronger maybe metal version” but i think it failed correctly as it is. If it was stronger it would probably have damaged the deck or baseplate - which made it out totally salvageable

Only think I might do is use a super hard tpu or add a thin neoprene gasket to make it keep water and dust out better.

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Alright! You’ve all convinced me!
I’m going to try a pair of Duality trucks!
Now just to decide on hangar width

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