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Changes for the forum in 2020 (SERIOUS)

Hey all-

With the new year and new decade upon us, the forum staff thought we’d take some of the lessons learned from the last year and apply them to how the forum operates in 2020 and beyond. These are not proposed changes but are being put into practice as of the posting of this message.

That said, we would still like to hear your thoughts on any and all of the following. Please consider this a SERIOUS thread, and that subject makes for a great starting point to our changes.

  1. SERIOUS threads clarification:

It has been brought to our attention that SERIOUS thread rules could use some clarification since it’s gone from being a test program to being adopted across the forum.

So here goes:

Anyone can start a SERIOUS thread that wants the most information shared in the quickest fashion. By using that tag when you start a topic, you are in effect offering to police your own thread and weed out extraneous content or people who make too many jokes and derails. Mock SERIOUS threads are funny, but let’s try to resist that urge.

In a SERIOUS thread, the word (SERIOUS) needs to be added to the end of the title, with the beginning of the title describing the intended topic of discussion. No further rules or conditions may be applied to the discussion. Users must respect the intent of the topic of discussion and posts should contribute towards the topic at hand. Trolling or posts that are clearly off topic or not within the spirit of discussion are subject to removal through flagging.

  1. Slugfests in public threads:

We all know the infamous Deckoz/s5300 spat that got way out of hand. At one point, they were pulled into a PM to fight privately, but one of them decided to leave the PM and continue the fight in the “replies to pictures” thread.

So we have decided that once people fighting in a thread are pulled into a “please work it out privately” PM, anyone leaving that PM and going back to the scene will be silenced for a 24-hour period. If they wait it out and do it again, it becomes a week. A third instance brings a permanent silencing.

  1. Abuse towards admins or mods:

The mods and admins of this forum volunteer their time and effort as a form of community service. It is an arduous task, and requires a lot of time and effort. The payoff is nill, but we don’t donate time and skills for a payoff. We do it to encourage the community to grow.

Anyone abusing, swearing at, calling out a mod in public and/or sending multiple messages just to be insulting is will be silenced for the 1st instance, 7 day silencing for the 2nd. Any following actions will end in a permanent silencing. This is also true if those lines are crossed in a PM. Respect will be given to all but we expect the same in return.

  1. Mod action consistency:

We try to work as a team, but since we’re all individuals, we handle things differently from time-to-time and that can lead to confusion. So we’re going to make a mighty effort to be on the same page with how we handle things. If you see instances that fall outside this stated goal or something that seems like a misuse of mod powers, please contact an admin by PM. The admins for 2020 are Mike ( @mmaner) , Damon ( @longhairedboy ) , Jamie ( @jamie) and myself ( @BillGordon )

  1. Derail Jail:

Derail Jail will continue as currently implemented, but even given that, let’s try to follow the trend of keeping the level lounges, Derail Jail and “In Your Corner” as the dirty playgrounds of esk8.news forum. For anyone wondering, with the exception of the lounges, these areas do not update to the main listings of topics.

  1. Do not post PM screenshots:

Although Discourse intended for PMs to be “personal messages” instead of “private messages”, we tend to use them for both purposes here on the forum. For that reason, we’re going to ask that private message screenshots not be used as threats or shaming tactics from this day forward in the public forum. If you want to send them in PM, go right ahead. The same “24 hours/week/permanent” silencing scale will be in place here.

  1. Don’t get sneaky:

This, frankly, gets a bit old. On a forum with 1500+ intelligent people, there will no doubt be instances where someone finds a clever workaround to avoid some policy or another. In these cases, a warning to stop will be issued first, then the “24 hours/week/permanent” silencing scale goes into effect.

  1. Civil Discourse and Inclusion:

We want all members to feel welcome on the forum. To create an environment of tolerance and inclusion, we ask members to continue to honor the previously set rules and conditions.

They are:

No file-sharing or torrent links to pirated software.
No posts targeting another user’s race or geography.
No political posts.
No serious threats of violence or calls for such.
No misogynistic, homophobic, or transphobic comments.

Again, the above changes are live and in place as of now. Thanks everyone for your input and hard work in getting the forum to where it is today.

@longhairedboy (Damon)
@jamie (Jamie)
@mmaner (Mike)
@Dareno (Daren)
@anorak234 (Ben)
@zach (Zach)
@Sender (Tim)

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@BillGordon what would we do without you

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This pretty much all sounds good to me. Progress :heavy_check_mark:

I was wondering if you could clarify this line for me?

Is this saying that the original poster can not say, for example, “pictures only, no words” and have that be protected under the SERIOUS tag? Obviously just an example of “further rules or conditions”, I love the picture thread as much as the next duck here.

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Thanks, but the whole staff worked this out. Damon sat on a throne made out of old motor mounts and barked orders at us.

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This means that the title can be “Pintail decks discussion (SERIOUS)”, but no other rules can be set in the first post like “blue color only” or “pre 1990.”

Otherwise, we become a series of little discussions where we have locked out too many potential interested contributors.

Does that answer it?

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Sure does :slightly_smiling_face:

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That’s cuts into 90% of a lot of regulars’ discussion. Does this carry into lounge?

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Joking and messing around is different than purposely tying to bait someone or attack them on those grounds. Intent is everything.

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That’s a thin line to walk. Good luck!

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We all walk it every day in society.

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For a moment there I thought jokes were not allowed anymore.

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No, that would be counterintuitive to this community. Especially regarding you and me.

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True, most do it better too. I can think of a couple that wouldn’t run their mouth face to face the way they do online.

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And also: these are not new. We’ve never condoned these behaviours. In fact, they should be considered reminders for that reason. I’ll make that edit now. Thanks for pointing that out.

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I’d still do if there is a good enough distance between us and there is nothing preventing my escape.

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Glad to have you as a Mod Bill thx for your work

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No SERIOUS in the title of this thread ? :thinking:

I think that the tag in the title should be mandatory if the OP wants a thread to be SERIOUS. It is too easy to miss the SERIOUS if it is inside the first post but hard to missread to title.

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Haha. FAIL.You got me. Well done. Adding now.

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Haha :wink:

But what do you think of my idea (SERIOUS only works if present in the title), @BillGordon ?

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